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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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gordondaviesmoustache
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Finally! An honest Russian!
RobMCFC
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This report contains an Interesting breakdown of the various outcomes that the West is afraid of, including:-
More Russian stuff blowing up, plus UN documents horrendous Russian war crimes
Ukrainian special forces landed an assault team on the west coast of Crimea to conduct an operation. Ukraine reports many Russian casualties and an unspecified number of Ukrainian casualties. One Ukrainian was captured. An S-400 air defense system near...www.dailykos.com
"They are afraid of Russian defeat: it means Russia breaking down, collapsing, a humanitarian catastrophe, a refugee crisis of a huge scale, uncontrolled spread of nuclear weapons and excessive strengthening of China."
It seems obvious to me that the best outcome is to drive Russia out of Ukraine, degrade their ability to attack again and to make sure that if they ever do try to attack again, they will instantly feel the full force of NATO.
The best outcome is:
1. Drive them out of Ukraine.
2. Engineer a Gorbachev type leader.
3. Hang out the possibility of associate membership of EU and eventually NATO, pointing out that this is their best bet against China. In return Russia would have to hand over war criminals, return the children and take part in the reconstruction of Ukraine.
Yes, I know.
1. Drive them out of Ukraine.
2. Engineer a Gorbachev type leader.
3. Hang out the possibility of associate membership of EU and eventually NATO, pointing out that this is their best bet against China. In return Russia would have to hand over war criminals, return the children and take part in the reconstruction of Ukraine.
Yes, I know.
grunge
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Putin has pretty much said it too. He wants to ‘liberate’ Europe.
Gabriel
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It’s Sodom and Gomorrah in Europe, apparently. Just popped my head out the window to check. Church bells chiming, a man on his bike, and a woman walking her dog. Hardly the wickedness that calls for God’s destruction...
Some years ago, one of Putin’s henchmen talked about the Russian empire stretching from Vladivostoch to Lisbon. Note, the chinese partially control Vladivostoch now.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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They need to realise pushing that ideology will result with the destruction and further break up of what Russia is. They can’t roll over Ukraine, what happens when the rest of NATO start taking aim at them?
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Evening Update:
Ukraine Update: The Russian Black Sea blockade is cracking
Food security is a key casualty of the war in Ukraine, as Ukraine produces 10% of wheat, 15% of corn, 13% of barley, and 50% of the global sunflower oil market. An inability to export these products can lead to famine in the poorest parts of the world....
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BlueAnorak
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Day 589 Review:
47 (FORTY SEVEN) Russian artilary systems destroyed on 3rd October!
Ukraine Invasion Day 589: a list of some dumb things Russia did, plus transferring seized weapons
CNN reported on October 4 that the US will transfer seized Iranian weapons and ammunition rounds to Ukraine. Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and marginally advanced on October 4. Ukrainian...
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47 (FORTY SEVEN) Russian artilary systems destroyed on 3rd October!
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