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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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28th Mechanized Brigade have broken the Russian defence at Kurdyumivka,Donetsk Region.
Also an advance further North towards Mykolaivka,Donetsk Region......about 7km Northwest of Soledar.
Slava Ukraini.
Also an advance further North towards Mykolaivka,Donetsk Region......about 7km Northwest of Soledar.
Slava Ukraini.
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Scottyboi
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From "The Analyst":
FRONTLINE UPDATE FEB 1-2
It looks like the Ukrainians sinking of the corvette was part of its process of eliminating radars. It was sat in a lake in the northwest acting as a picket ship, providing radar coverage for the area. Arrogantly the Russians presumed it was its own best defence system! Also it was inside a salt lake with a very narrow entrance - which again they presumed the sandbars would act as a defence. Ukraine saw it as a challenge! The rest you know.
In Synkivka there had been heavy fighting.
Around the Terny front the Russians have pushed 1.5km forward on a 4km wide front. This is becoming serious. It’s difficult for Ukraine to slow the advance. It’s impossible to know what the defence plan is.
Around Bohdanivka Ukraine has had two straight days of advances against the Russians.
Around Kurdiamivka south of Klieshievka ukraine has made gains.
In Avdivka the spearhead has been dramatically reduced to Ukrainian advantage. However some sources say Russian forces are still advancing on the streets. Safe to say it’s a grey zone.
Russian armour attempted to move out of Donetsk but were wiped out.
Around Robotyne there’s been heavy but inconclusive fighting.
At Krynky the Ukrainian forces have made a small additional gain further up the coast from their main positions. Russian infantry assaults are suffering 70% casualties during the average attack. Ukraine is wiping out Russian FPV drones before they get to use them.
The situation in respect of General Zaluzhnyi is causing some disquiet in Ukraine. His popularity in the army is widespread and that of his likely successor, Colonel-General Syrski, is not so strong by any means. Syrski is regarded as overly demanding, promotes only those loyal to him and insists on actions that can lead to unnecessary losses. Now how much of this is true and merely criticism by those who distrust change, who knows? He certainly has a better relationship with other militaries - Zaluzhnyi and his shopping lists of aid became a notorious part of any discussions with him.
It’s not impossible Zelensky will change his mind, there’s a lot of pressure to do so before anything is formalised. Some see it as the potential break up of a dream team. Others that change is needed.
In my experience generals gain very distinct characteristics during their careers and they generally do what they think is right. It doesn’t mean they are. The criticism of both of them is almost certainly true, to
a point. What nobody wants to bring up at times like this is whether or not for instance, unpopular orders resulted in deaths that saved a situation from certain disaster. Only deep analysis and context can reveal such details. Any senior officer is only as good as his basic character, his knowledge and his experience. We will simply have to see.
Meanwhile nobody is revealing what happened to Gerasimov in Russia after weeks of wondering. What this must do to Russia’s command structure and its overall operations is not good for them. Deputies are probably running the show and fearful of making any mistakes. It’s not the type of situation to have doubt and uncertainty hanging over you in a regime like fascist Russia. It may well explain the odd approach to the winter offensive.
Slava Ukraini !
FRONTLINE UPDATE FEB 1-2
It looks like the Ukrainians sinking of the corvette was part of its process of eliminating radars. It was sat in a lake in the northwest acting as a picket ship, providing radar coverage for the area. Arrogantly the Russians presumed it was its own best defence system! Also it was inside a salt lake with a very narrow entrance - which again they presumed the sandbars would act as a defence. Ukraine saw it as a challenge! The rest you know.
In Synkivka there had been heavy fighting.
Around the Terny front the Russians have pushed 1.5km forward on a 4km wide front. This is becoming serious. It’s difficult for Ukraine to slow the advance. It’s impossible to know what the defence plan is.
Around Bohdanivka Ukraine has had two straight days of advances against the Russians.
Around Kurdiamivka south of Klieshievka ukraine has made gains.
In Avdivka the spearhead has been dramatically reduced to Ukrainian advantage. However some sources say Russian forces are still advancing on the streets. Safe to say it’s a grey zone.
Russian armour attempted to move out of Donetsk but were wiped out.
Around Robotyne there’s been heavy but inconclusive fighting.
At Krynky the Ukrainian forces have made a small additional gain further up the coast from their main positions. Russian infantry assaults are suffering 70% casualties during the average attack. Ukraine is wiping out Russian FPV drones before they get to use them.
The situation in respect of General Zaluzhnyi is causing some disquiet in Ukraine. His popularity in the army is widespread and that of his likely successor, Colonel-General Syrski, is not so strong by any means. Syrski is regarded as overly demanding, promotes only those loyal to him and insists on actions that can lead to unnecessary losses. Now how much of this is true and merely criticism by those who distrust change, who knows? He certainly has a better relationship with other militaries - Zaluzhnyi and his shopping lists of aid became a notorious part of any discussions with him.
It’s not impossible Zelensky will change his mind, there’s a lot of pressure to do so before anything is formalised. Some see it as the potential break up of a dream team. Others that change is needed.
In my experience generals gain very distinct characteristics during their careers and they generally do what they think is right. It doesn’t mean they are. The criticism of both of them is almost certainly true, to
a point. What nobody wants to bring up at times like this is whether or not for instance, unpopular orders resulted in deaths that saved a situation from certain disaster. Only deep analysis and context can reveal such details. Any senior officer is only as good as his basic character, his knowledge and his experience. We will simply have to see.
Meanwhile nobody is revealing what happened to Gerasimov in Russia after weeks of wondering. What this must do to Russia’s command structure and its overall operations is not good for them. Deputies are probably running the show and fearful of making any mistakes. It’s not the type of situation to have doubt and uncertainty hanging over you in a regime like fascist Russia. It may well explain the odd approach to the winter offensive.
Slava Ukraini !
Scottyboi
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Any truth in this German blues?
️Assistant to Bundestag deputy, Vladimir Sergienko, works for the FSB!! - Der Spiegel
Journalists received correspondence from deputy assistant, Evgeniy Shmidt, on social networks and identified his contact person, FSB Colonel Ilya Vechtomov.
According to the correspondence, Sergienko reported on his actions to him, coordinated further steps and received funding from him.
Carrying out the task of a curator, Sergienko ensured that the parliamentary faction Alternative für Deutschland filed a lawsuit with the German Federal Constitutional Court to stop the supply of tanks to Ukraine.
️Assistant to Bundestag deputy, Vladimir Sergienko, works for the FSB!! - Der SpiegelJournalists received correspondence from deputy assistant, Evgeniy Shmidt, on social networks and identified his contact person, FSB Colonel Ilya Vechtomov.
According to the correspondence, Sergienko reported on his actions to him, coordinated further steps and received funding from him.
Carrying out the task of a curator, Sergienko ensured that the parliamentary faction Alternative für Deutschland filed a lawsuit with the German Federal Constitutional Court to stop the supply of tanks to Ukraine.
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UK to test fire first nuclear missile since failed launch in 2016
HMS Vanguard, a £4bn nuclear submarine, has been undergoing a major refit ahead of its return to service
www.independent.co.uk
At least if we ever get to a global war, the UK is well prepared to defend itself! That missile test in 2016 sounds quite something!
cleavers
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Some people think the russian nuclear weapons are likely to be perfect if they launch one ;-)UK to test fire first nuclear missile since failed launch in 2016
HMS Vanguard, a £4bn nuclear submarine, has been undergoing a major refit ahead of its return to service
At least if we ever get to a global war, the UK is well prepared to defend itself! That missile test in 2016 sounds quite something!
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UK in shit-state, are the civilians ready to protect the country?UK to test fire first nuclear missile since failed launch in 2016
HMS Vanguard, a £4bn nuclear submarine, has been undergoing a major refit ahead of its return to service
At least if we ever get to a global war, the UK is well prepared to defend itself! That missile test in 2016 sounds quite something!
cleavers
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They won't need to, certainly not from russia, unless we have to try and catch their nukes, they're not ever coming anywhere near the UK (in anger anyway).
Also, our armed forces wouldn't ever want untrained, good meaning civilians, that's why we have a professional well trained armed forces (unlike russia, and many others).
Scottyboi
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From "The Analyst":
UPDATE 2-3 FEBRUARY
It’s been a bad week for the Russians - a really bad week.
The depth and scale of the assault on Crimea expanded yesterday as more detail emerged about the missile strikes across the peninsula, particularly on the airbase north of Sevastopol.
The death of a commanding general was just one result. What became clear was that the S-400 systems designed to protect the peninsula have failed in their jobs - largely because the Ukrainians destroyed all of the early warning radars the Russians stationed on the peninsula, then sank the corvette that was trying to provide some kind of early warning cover. That forced the
S-400’s into using their own radars and revealing themselves.
That in turn made them vulnerable to decoy missiles that they quickly engaged and HARM’s followed forcing the S-400’s to switch off as Storm Shadows blasted the airfield and it’s command centre as well as the central command bunkers at Yevapatoria.
The failure of the S-400 to do its job because of the risk to itself has become the subject of widespread criticism in the Russian milblogs. Much of its problem is its such a valuable system they can’t afford to lose, but it it’s also a lack of close range anti-air that works. The Pantsir is not very good if there is even one available.
The battles around Novomikhailivka north east of Vuhledar have been going on for some time. Russia managed at high cost to reach the defence lines on the southern edge of the village - but the cost over several long cold weeks has been increasingly high. It’s now all come to an end with a Ukrainian counter attack that drove them all the way back to their start lines. Further Russian attempts to try the same thing further round to the south resulted in mass casualties and even more equipment losses - almost all at the hands of drones and mines. Again, this is being seen as another example of command failure by Russian milblogs which have become very vocal on these two subjects.
Their frustration is that no matter what they try, progress is either incredibly costly or non-existent and the price paid isn’t even close to offering what might callously be described as value. There is also a growing push back at the death toll. Now verging on 400,000 after two years it’s starting to resonate at home.
Every death affects roughly ten people back home directly and another ten indirectly. 400,000 x 20 means that some 8 million Russians have a relationship with someone who died on the front and it’s probably twice that in reality. They may not be willing to ask the questions that need asking, but discontent simmers. Even more so when the state doesn’t pay up compensation or acknowledge those deaths in the first place with any sense of urgency or decency.
Add to all these woes the EU funding agreement for Ukraine, Sweden likely to fully join NATO very soon as Hungary stops dragging its feet, the fact that while the frontlines are barely moving Ukraine has utterly humiliated Russia in Crimea this week, and it’s all looking like a war Russia just can’t win.
The Crimea humiliation is seriously upsetting to Russians generally. They see Crimea as a stolen land that they got back - it’s the warm holiday heartland of their family histories back to the soviet era. Even Navalny said he would never give it back. To find it’s becoming progressively untenable, that its strategic value is actually becoming a burden, is hard to understand or believe.
For centuries he who holds Crimea effectively controls the Black Sea.
Modern weapons have changed that situation. Ukrainian imagination and flexibility combined with those weapons has given them effective command of the waters and skies over the eastern Black Sea without as much as having a single viable warship to their name. It’s a hard pill for the Russians to swallow. It’s also why peace without the return of Crimea remains unthinkable to both sides.
Slava Ukraini !
UPDATE 2-3 FEBRUARY
It’s been a bad week for the Russians - a really bad week.
The depth and scale of the assault on Crimea expanded yesterday as more detail emerged about the missile strikes across the peninsula, particularly on the airbase north of Sevastopol.
The death of a commanding general was just one result. What became clear was that the S-400 systems designed to protect the peninsula have failed in their jobs - largely because the Ukrainians destroyed all of the early warning radars the Russians stationed on the peninsula, then sank the corvette that was trying to provide some kind of early warning cover. That forced the
S-400’s into using their own radars and revealing themselves.
That in turn made them vulnerable to decoy missiles that they quickly engaged and HARM’s followed forcing the S-400’s to switch off as Storm Shadows blasted the airfield and it’s command centre as well as the central command bunkers at Yevapatoria.
The failure of the S-400 to do its job because of the risk to itself has become the subject of widespread criticism in the Russian milblogs. Much of its problem is its such a valuable system they can’t afford to lose, but it it’s also a lack of close range anti-air that works. The Pantsir is not very good if there is even one available.
The battles around Novomikhailivka north east of Vuhledar have been going on for some time. Russia managed at high cost to reach the defence lines on the southern edge of the village - but the cost over several long cold weeks has been increasingly high. It’s now all come to an end with a Ukrainian counter attack that drove them all the way back to their start lines. Further Russian attempts to try the same thing further round to the south resulted in mass casualties and even more equipment losses - almost all at the hands of drones and mines. Again, this is being seen as another example of command failure by Russian milblogs which have become very vocal on these two subjects.
Their frustration is that no matter what they try, progress is either incredibly costly or non-existent and the price paid isn’t even close to offering what might callously be described as value. There is also a growing push back at the death toll. Now verging on 400,000 after two years it’s starting to resonate at home.
Every death affects roughly ten people back home directly and another ten indirectly. 400,000 x 20 means that some 8 million Russians have a relationship with someone who died on the front and it’s probably twice that in reality. They may not be willing to ask the questions that need asking, but discontent simmers. Even more so when the state doesn’t pay up compensation or acknowledge those deaths in the first place with any sense of urgency or decency.
Add to all these woes the EU funding agreement for Ukraine, Sweden likely to fully join NATO very soon as Hungary stops dragging its feet, the fact that while the frontlines are barely moving Ukraine has utterly humiliated Russia in Crimea this week, and it’s all looking like a war Russia just can’t win.
The Crimea humiliation is seriously upsetting to Russians generally. They see Crimea as a stolen land that they got back - it’s the warm holiday heartland of their family histories back to the soviet era. Even Navalny said he would never give it back. To find it’s becoming progressively untenable, that its strategic value is actually becoming a burden, is hard to understand or believe.
For centuries he who holds Crimea effectively controls the Black Sea.
Modern weapons have changed that situation. Ukrainian imagination and flexibility combined with those weapons has given them effective command of the waters and skies over the eastern Black Sea without as much as having a single viable warship to their name. It’s a hard pill for the Russians to swallow. It’s also why peace without the return of Crimea remains unthinkable to both sides.
Slava Ukraini !