Russian invasion of Ukraine

Isreal is ditcging it's Patriots having decided to replace them a year ago with David's Sling (also by Raytheon but a joint venture with Rafael) - which has a longer range and higher altitude with cheaper interceptors was spectacularly effective against Iranian balistic missiles - and recently, the Russian supplies to Hezbollah and others caused an Israeli Cabinet Minister to warn Russia of the consequences of backing Iran...
Well the first part of those consequences are just about to be dished out...


That's 6 (SIX) to 8 (EIGHT) batteries. Not launchers - batteries.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Isreal is ditching it's Patriots having decided to replace them a year ago with David's Sling - which was spectacularly effective against Iranian balistic missiles - and recently, the Russian supplies to Hezbollah and others caused an Israeli Cabinet Minister to warn Russia of the consequences of backing Iran...
Well the first part of those consequences are just about to be dished out...


That's 6 (SIX) to 8 (EIGHT) batteries. Not launchers - batteries.
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Amazing news...8 batteries would be up to 64 launchers,which would mean 256 ready to fire missiles.

Slava Ukraini.
 
BlueAnorak said:
About fucking time to be honest.
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To be fair, I think "the west" has just been cautious not to provoke putin, but with every putin rant, yet does fook all, they've been emboldened that he will do nothing. However we still need to be a little cautious, as eventually he will do something outrageous.

If you look at what is happening right now, it's largely not a lot from either side, and in the grand scheme of things nothing much has changed for the best part of 12+ months, other than minor changes, it's the very definition of stalemate.
 
cleavers said:
To be fair, I think "the west" has just been cautious not to provoke putin, but with every putin rant, yet does fook all, they've been emboldened that he will do nothing. However we still need to be a little cautious, as eventually he will do something outrageous.

If you look at what is happening right now, it's largely not a lot from either side, and in the grand scheme of things nothing much has changed for the best part of 12+ months, other than minor changes, it's the very definition of stalemate.
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We all knew that 2024 was going to be a year of Ukraine hanging on and the lack of ammo made that even more difficult
It is very attritional at the moment and so long as the orange gimp isn't elected, there's a chance that 2025 could result in Ukraine making some huge gains
A lot depends on putin's political support and if he is ousted
I really can't see the whole of pre 2014 territory ever being returned to Ukrainian control whilst he's still in power
 
dickie davies said:
We all knew that 2024 was going to be a year of Ukraine hanging on and the lack of ammo made that even more difficult
It is very attritional at the moment and so long as the orange gimp isn't elected, there's a chance that 2025 could result in Ukraine making some huge gains
A lot depends on putin's political support and if he is ousted
I really can't see the whole of pre 2014 territory ever being returned to Ukrainian control whilst he's still in power
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He’s hanging on for a trump win, if he can do that, the orange gimp will leave Ukraine in the shit, nato and the eu will have to step up. Expect China to move on Taiwan as well
 
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