Russian invasion of Ukraine

[jrb]

Not sure what the relevance of your post is. None of what you’ve said backs up your assertion that Putin just wants Ukraine and nothing else. He will clearly carry on causing problems around the world even if he backs off from full scale invasions in the future, which he won’t if he’s allowed to keep some of Ukraine.

The world has always been full of dictators causing problems around the world, but those problems haven’t spilled out into a possible world war.

The Cuban Missile crisis.
America v North Vietnam.(China)
Isreal v Egypt.
Iraq v America and the UK.
Israel v Iran and it’s proxies.
Russia v Ukraine.
Etc.

Before the war started in ernest, Russia already controlled parts of Ukraine. The war was started by Putin to try and get the whole of Ukraine under Russian control.

 

[jrb]

Moldova would be next. Would have said Georgia but they’ve just voted in a Putin puppet, presumably following interference by Russia.

Even with Russian interference, Moldova still voted for pro EU.

For Russia and their forces to get to Moldova, it has to take and to
occupy the South West of Ukraine first.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Putin can say what he wants. Do you think ‘all the European leaders belonging to NATO’ are going to back down to him and to agree to what he wants? Come on!

They will if there's ever a time in the future when NATO doesn't include the Americans.

In that situation he could and would take the piss. Britain and France's 8 subs carrying nuke's, is only a small deterrent. You honestly think we'd use them if he attacked the Baltic's or Poland?

We also don't have a tactical nuke deterrent, so what would our response be if he used them?

Fire the big boys? No chance!

 

[cleavers]

And how far has Putin and Russia got?

1/4 of the way across Ukraine, slowly destroying Russia’s armed forces and economy, and creating a bigger NATO border and force.

It really hasn’t worked, has it.

I said earlier today, it was badly planned and even more badly executed, and he might have gained a a few hundred square kilometers, in what has been a pretty humiliating defeat in reality.

On top of that he's ruined his economy short, medium, and long term.

 

[cleavers]

You’ve not really refuted my point that Putin has been launching attacks by various means on the west for 20 years. Just because he’s bitten off more than he can chew with Ukraine doesn’t mean he’s going to sit back and not do anything else.

He no longer has the ability, ha wasted it with this nonsence, but Ukraine was all he had to attack, as most of the rest of eastern europe was already within NATO.