Russian invasion of Ukraine

Victors get to name their terms. Ukraine doesn't have to agree to the first demand, that isn't what I said.

Crimea needs to be abandoned.

It can haggle over how much of the East it wants to give up. Reality is that it will be difficult to persuade Russia to vacate that land without offering a more attractive alternative.
I don’t think Ukraine are ready to throw the towel in
 
Nothing wrong with that statement. Ukraine has lost the war. Russia needs to come to the table and name it's terms. Ukraine need to accept that they have lost territory and come to terms with it and demand assurances and protection from the West to prevent further losses.

All of what you say is true, but it does not negate the fact that Ukraine is defeated and that the war needs to stop and that conflict is not worth starting WW3 or a nuclear conflict over.

Asserting your opinion as fact does not make it so
 
Nothing wrong with that statement. Ukraine has lost the war. Russia needs to come to the table and name it's terms. Ukraine need to accept that they have lost territory and come to terms with it and demand assurances and protection from the West to prevent further losses.

All of what you say is true, but it does not negate the fact that Ukraine is defeated and that the war needs to stop and that conflict is not worth starting WW3 or a nuclear conflict over.
Ukraine has lost the war? Must have missed that one.
 
Nothing wrong with that statement. Ukraine has lost the war. Russia needs to come to the table and name it's terms. Ukraine need to accept that they have lost territory and come to terms with it and demand assurances and protection from the West to prevent further losses.

All of what you say is true, but it does not negate the fact that Ukraine is defeated and that the war needs to stop and that conflict is not worth starting WW3 or a nuclear conflict over.
Genuinely curious, does the same logic apply to Israel Gaza? With the former being a nuclear power, should Gazans cede whatever territory is demanded indefinitely for a more peaceful world for the rest of us?
 

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