grunge
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Agreed however that horse bolted in Ukraine. Both sides have been using them throughout.
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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Agreed however that horse bolted in Ukraine. Both sides have been using them throughout.
Mr Kobayashi
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Every decision NATO has made since February 2022 has contained a level of comparable risk.
This is a higher risk threshold. And the lowest chance of success for Ukraine.
They will have to be defeated....they will not as you say "give it up",nor will they "haggle" to keep it.Similar words have been said throughout history. Often before a defeat.
Heroyam Slava.
grunge
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Good points. So it's better to change the nature of the war than continuing fighting a format of war they have proved incapable of winning.
That would be Ukraine’s decision to make. The war is far from over and they are a long way from giving up.
Mr Kobayashi
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Agreed however that horse bolted in Ukraine. Both sides have been using them throughout.
Same for Cluster munitions.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Depends what you define as success.This is a higher risk threshold. And the lowest chance of success for Ukraine.
Mr Kobayashi
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Depends what you define as success.
% of success = % territory that stays Ukraine?
grunge
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I wouldn’t say this changes any chances of success or failure. All these missiles will do is hit ammo dumps and hardware slowing the Russians down.This is a higher risk threshold. And the lowest chance of success for Ukraine.
The Russians will just move there ammo and planes deeper into Russia. Which will then allow Ukraine get better view of when strikes are coming.
It’s all about attrition.
I just put him on ignore.Depends what you define as success.
17,000 posts in 4 years means he has far to much spare time to overthink things.
He is a scared coward who would rather a country give up to a tyrant, so it might help him sleep easier each night.
Corbynites are all like that. They live in a fantasy land in their heads that terrorist and tyrants are "just misunderstood", and it's everybody elses fault for making them do the things they do. Delusional...
Ukrainians are fighting for their very existence. They might have to accept a peace deal that they don't want to.
But it is their lives, so it is their choice when to do this.
Millwallawayveteran1988
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War is just grim.I wouldn’t say this changes any chances of success or failure. All these missiles will do is hit ammo dumps and hardware slowing the Russians down.
The Russians will just move there ammo and planes deeper into Russia. Which will then allow Ukraine get better view of when strikes are coming.
It’s all about attrition.
Unfortunately it keeps millions of people worldwide employed and companies making billions.