Russian invasion of Ukraine

[dickie davies]

Cannot see that ever happening

the nazis did it in WW2

 

[mosssideblue]

the nazis did it in WW2

You really think the Ukranians would simply accept being Russian and help them develop military capability after what they have done?

 

[dickie davies]

You really think the Ukranians would simply accept being Russian and help them develop military capability after what they have done?

Do it or your family dies

 

[mosssideblue]

Do it or your family dies

Having witnessed the resolve of Ukrainians, I’m convinced they would prefer the latter

 

[dickie davies]

Having witnessed the resolve of Ukrainians, I’m convinced they would prefer the latter

It's certain we have differing opinions on this, but I'm also certain that we are of the same mind that we have to give the Ukranians every ounce of support, militarily, that we possibly can, no matter the financial cost. Whatever that figure is, it'll be less than if the ruSSians take Ukraine

A 1p rise in income tax is about £17.50 a year to someone on a £30k salary

edit - As pointed out a bit later in this thread, my maths is out
It's £170

 

[Elbow beards]

Question, it's been mentioned on here a few times that if the war lasts 6 more months then Russia are fucked. Can Ukraine hold out long enough with just the aid of Europe, to see the cunts crumble?
I really hope so, because if that's the case Europe should give as much money, training and weapons as possible and when they've won turn to America say "fuck you, you're on your own now"

 

[mosssideblue]

Question, it's been mentioned on here a few times that if the war lasts 6 more months then Russia are fucked. Can Ukraine hold out long enough with just the aid of Europe, to see the cunts crumble?
I really hope so, because if that's the case Europe should give as much money, training and weapons as possible and when they've won turn to America say "fuck you, you're on your own now"

I would say yes with one huge caveat. Will Trump provide any funding to his buddy?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I would say yes with one huge caveat. Will Trump provide any funding to his buddy?

That's the next unthinkable step, I suspect it won't be direct funding, but the demand that Russias overseas assets are unfrozen and trade is started again.

 

[mosssideblue]

That's the next unthinkable step, I suspect it won't be direct funding, but the demand that Russias overseas assets are unfrozen and trade is started again.

Exactly, as well as lifting US sanctions

 

[Elbow beards]

That's the next unthinkable step, I suspect it won't be direct funding, but the demand that Russias overseas assets are unfrozen and trade is started again.

Well we need to give all them frozen assets to Ukraine fast then.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

A 1p rise in income tax is about £17.50 a year to someone on a £30k salary

? Think you're out x10?

Personal allowance ~13k
Taxable income 17k

1% of 17k is £170.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Zelensky to hold a major press conference on the 23rd of February, . I pray he’s not been forced into snap decisions after the barrage of abuse he’s received from the White House

 

[mosssideblue]

Zelensky to hold a major press conference on the 23rd of February

I pray it isn’t bad news for the Country

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Zelensky to hold a major press conference on the 23rd of February, . I pray he’s not been forced into snap decisions after the barrage of abuse he’s received from the White House

Could go anywhere in the spectrum I guess.

Proud of fight etc, but now obstacle to US support, cannot stand alone vs Russia, am standing down...

...all the way to full on Churchill...

We have been abandoned by Trump. What is our policy now? I can say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny...

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

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Trump/Musk is deliberately telling lies on Twitter right now

I pray it isn’t bad news for the Country

I agree Zelenskyy has morals and is weary of Trumps lies, I see it in his face he feels for the people and Ukraine.
The lies stretch far and wide, we know about the reach of the red tops. I’m constantly on twitter and you tube calling Trump and Musk out.

A law should be placed on social media before the UK swings to the right.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Here’s a poll on X
It’s clear on what we think but I don’t remember being asked my opinion. Yet it’s a YouGov poll.

 

[inbetween]

Could go anywhere in the spectrum I guess.

Proud of fight etc, but now obstacle to US support, cannot stand alone vs Russia, am standing down...

...all the way to full on Churchill...

We have been abandoned by Trump. What is our policy now? I can say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny...

I think sometimes we have to remember that this isn't Call of Duty and as we gauge our reactions we have to realise that sending us all to war is becoming a very real prospect. This isn't about posting on Twitter or the Bluemoon forum anymore, this is about war.

Do you want to send yourself and your sons and daughters to fight in Ukraine? War is utter hell and we must find any way to avoid it. Anyone who simply says that we must help Ukraine no matter the cost is utterly crazy.

The middle ground, calm and sensibility has never been more important, humanity itself may even depend upon it.

 

[HelloCity]

 

[Citizen Mike]

? Think you're out x10?

Personal allowance ~13k
Taxable income 17k

1% of 17k is £170.

No chance the government will put the Country before the party. They have already proved that they won't go against the manifesto

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

N.Ireland to boycott the St Patrick’s day official visit to the White House because of Gaza.