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Ruthless summer clear out
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kun
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Outs
Wright
McGivern
Bridge
Wabara
Boyata
K. Toure
Lescott
Ibrahim
Elabdellaoui
Barry (unfortunately)
Sinclair
Dzeko
Santa Cruz
Scapuzzi
Nimely
Maybes
Pantilimon
Maicon
Kolarov
Milner
Garcia
Nasri
Tevez
Ins
3rd choice goalkeeper
Young centre-back - Sakho, N'Koulou, Marqinhos, Zouma, Matip
Central midfielder - Paulinho, Fernandinho, Benat, Gundongan
Winger/Attacking midfielder - J. Rodriguez, Griezmann, Muniain, Ben Arfa
Striker - Cavani, Neymar, Falcao, Suarez
Possible ins
2nd choice keeper
Young left-back - Digne, Shaw, Cissokho
Experienced centre-back - Hangeland, Coloccini, Radu, Albiol
Another winger/Attacking midfielder
Another striker - Jovetic, El Shaarawy, Muriel, Soldado, Mirallas
Possible Squad
Hart, Pantilimon, 3rd Keeper
Zabaleta, Richards
Kompany, Nastasic, Sakho, Hangeland, Rekik
Clichy, Digne
Y. Toure, Paulinho, Milner, Garcia, Rodwell, Razak
Silva, Nasri, Rodriguez, Suarez
Aguero, Cavani, Jovetic, Guidetti
Wright
McGivern
Bridge
Wabara
Boyata
K. Toure
Lescott
Ibrahim
Elabdellaoui
Barry (unfortunately)
Sinclair
Dzeko
Santa Cruz
Scapuzzi
Nimely
Maybes
Pantilimon
Maicon
Kolarov
Milner
Garcia
Nasri
Tevez
Ins
3rd choice goalkeeper
Young centre-back - Sakho, N'Koulou, Marqinhos, Zouma, Matip
Central midfielder - Paulinho, Fernandinho, Benat, Gundongan
Winger/Attacking midfielder - J. Rodriguez, Griezmann, Muniain, Ben Arfa
Striker - Cavani, Neymar, Falcao, Suarez
Possible ins
2nd choice keeper
Young left-back - Digne, Shaw, Cissokho
Experienced centre-back - Hangeland, Coloccini, Radu, Albiol
Another winger/Attacking midfielder
Another striker - Jovetic, El Shaarawy, Muriel, Soldado, Mirallas
Possible Squad
Hart, Pantilimon, 3rd Keeper
Zabaleta, Richards
Kompany, Nastasic, Sakho, Hangeland, Rekik
Clichy, Digne
Y. Toure, Paulinho, Milner, Garcia, Rodwell, Razak
Silva, Nasri, Rodriguez, Suarez
Aguero, Cavani, Jovetic, Guidetti
Cheadle_hulmeBlue
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what need is there for a summer clear out, we are comfortably second at most and are competing with united easily.
It seems like people play on fifa too much and want to get rid of everyone no matter how good they are and replace them with messi and ronaldo. I cant beleive people are saying lets get rid of barry !!!
we may get rid of players who arent playing that much or replace players who are leaving like tevez, but why would we get rid of playersd like richards and milner who are fantastic players to have.
It seems like people play on fifa too much and want to get rid of everyone no matter how good they are and replace them with messi and ronaldo. I cant beleive people are saying lets get rid of barry !!!
we may get rid of players who arent playing that much or replace players who are leaving like tevez, but why would we get rid of playersd like richards and milner who are fantastic players to have.
We'd be mad to get rid of Barry, I know he's getting on and his wage is high but he has 1 year left on his contract and we'll be able to offer him reduced terms - which he'll probably take. We can upgrade on Barry but his calming and intelligent influence could be a benefit for a couple more years. If we get rid of too many settled players we risk becoming a team of strangers again that has to gel.
greasedupdeafguy
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Don't get why people are saying Milner, isn't he getting a contract extension?
bluedreaming
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I think there will be some changes but the last thing we need is clear out, we have a settled squad, that is the last thing we need to mess with.
Txixi I think will make adjustments over the next 2 to 3 summers not just the next.
Txixi I think will make adjustments over the next 2 to 3 summers not just the next.
Andouble said:There is no need for a 'ruthless summer clear out'.
Agreed. Our squad is decent as it is. Maybe a few tweaks here & there but I don't think we need much change.
Stoned Rose
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Cringeworthy thread, especially the OP.
We have the best defensive record in the league and look as solid as we ever have.
We are creating chances even against huge parked buses of 11 men on the 18 yard box for 90 minutes.
The only reason we aren't top of the league is a tendency to not take our chances and put games to bed.
No need at all for large scale or ruthless clear outs.
Imo we need to add:
A 25+ goals a season guaranteed striker such as Cavani, Falcoa or Suarez. (Look at the RVP Factor at Utd)
A creative 'silva type' midfielder, to do what we thought Nasri would do but doesn't.
A fast, direct winger (or wide player) such as Ben Arfa, Lennon, Bale or Oxlade.
There will be a clear out but in reality it is all deadwood. There is nothing 'ruthless' about that.
We have the best defensive record in the league and look as solid as we ever have.
We are creating chances even against huge parked buses of 11 men on the 18 yard box for 90 minutes.
The only reason we aren't top of the league is a tendency to not take our chances and put games to bed.
No need at all for large scale or ruthless clear outs.
Imo we need to add:
A 25+ goals a season guaranteed striker such as Cavani, Falcoa or Suarez. (Look at the RVP Factor at Utd)
A creative 'silva type' midfielder, to do what we thought Nasri would do but doesn't.
A fast, direct winger (or wide player) such as Ben Arfa, Lennon, Bale or Oxlade.
There will be a clear out but in reality it is all deadwood. There is nothing 'ruthless' about that.
1.618034
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The only players I'd be looking to move on are Kolarov and Nasri as they're simply not good enough often enough and could still demand a decent fee.
I can see Dzeko going but again we'd get decent money for him.
So basically rather than a clear out we need a good influx of top quality in midfield and up front plus a decent LB to cover Clichy.
And considering that we'll be getting money in, on top of the cash for Mario, it's fairly certain we'll be looking to go BIG this summer.
I can see Dzeko going but again we'd get decent money for him.
So basically rather than a clear out we need a good influx of top quality in midfield and up front plus a decent LB to cover Clichy.
And considering that we'll be getting money in, on top of the cash for Mario, it's fairly certain we'll be looking to go BIG this summer.
Rammy Blue
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It will all be down to which players attract bids of a reasonable level. Handful of players that are our core, rest of the squad will be binned if we can get them out.
I'd say those that are safe are....
Hart
Zab
Vince
Nasty
Clichy
Yaya
Barry
Silva
Aguero
Obviously we won't manage to unload all the rest of the squad, and we wouldn't want to, but they will go if a sufficient bid comes in - for example if we got a decent offer for either of Garcia or Milner then one would be out. Same for Dzeko or Tevez etc etc.
I expect us to try and bring in a few young decent English players and then 3 or 4 star names.
I'd say those that are safe are....
Hart
Zab
Vince
Nasty
Clichy
Yaya
Barry
Silva
Aguero
Obviously we won't manage to unload all the rest of the squad, and we wouldn't want to, but they will go if a sufficient bid comes in - for example if we got a decent offer for either of Garcia or Milner then one would be out. Same for Dzeko or Tevez etc etc.
I expect us to try and bring in a few young decent English players and then 3 or 4 star names.
Cheadle_hulmeBlue
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Rammy Blue said:It will all be down to which players attract bids of a reasonable level. Handful of players that are our core, rest of the squad will be binned if we can get them out.
I'd say those that are safe are....
Hart
Zab
Vince
Nasty
Clichy
Yaya
Barry
Silva
Aguero
Obviously we won't manage to unload all the rest of the squad, and we wouldn't want to, but they will go if a sufficient bid comes in - for example if we got a decent offer for either of Garcia or Milner then one would be out. Same for Dzeko or Tevez etc etc.
I expect us to try and bring in a few young decent English players and then 3 or 4 star names.
how have you not included richards or milner in your safe list. Besides milner is meant to be signing a new contract. The only players that will leave will be the dead wood and players that were going to leave anyway- tevez.
rastus
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Will be very interesting and possibly dissapointing.
Aguero & Silva to Spain could be the big shocks
Aguero & Silva to Spain could be the big shocks
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:Rammy Blue said:It will all be down to which players attract bids of a reasonable level. Handful of players that are our core, rest of the squad will be binned if we can get them out.
I'd say those that are safe are....
Hart
Zab
Vince
Nasty
Clichy
Yaya
Barry
Silva
Aguero
Obviously we won't manage to unload all the rest of the squad, and we wouldn't want to, but they will go if a sufficient bid comes in - for example if we got a decent offer for either of Garcia or Milner then one would be out. Same for Dzeko or Tevez etc etc.
I expect us to try and bring in a few young decent English players and then 3 or 4 star names.
how have you not included richards or milner in your safe list. Besides milner is meant to be signing a new contract. The only players that will leave will be the dead wood and players that were going to leave anyway- tevez.
If he signs a contract so be it. But he strikes me as the type that wants to play week in week out. We might not be able to guaranteed that. So rather than us getting rid I can still see him looking for a move, particularly if he ends up having another stretch on the bench.
Rammy Blue
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moomba said:Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:Rammy Blue said:It will all be down to which players attract bids of a reasonable level. Handful of players that are our core, rest of the squad will be binned if we can get them out.
I'd say those that are safe are....
Hart
Zab
Vince
Nasty
Clichy
Yaya
Barry
Silva
Aguero
Obviously we won't manage to unload all the rest of the squad, and we wouldn't want to, but they will go if a sufficient bid comes in - for example if we got a decent offer for either of Garcia or Milner then one would be out. Same for Dzeko or Tevez etc etc.
I expect us to try and bring in a few young decent English players and then 3 or 4 star names.
how have you not included richards or milner in your safe list. Besides milner is meant to be signing a new contract. The only players that will leave will be the dead wood and players that were going to leave anyway- tevez.
If he signs a contract so be it. But he strikes me as the type that wants to play week in week out. We might not be able to guaranteed that. So rather than us getting rid I can still see him looking for a move, particularly if he ends up having another stretch on the bench.
Yep, I like Jimmy but as I said if someone offers us 15mil for him then we'd rip their arm off. Micah is made of glass and can't be relied upon so again if we got offered good dough then I'm sure we'd let him go.
This. Although another addition I would like to see is a central midfielder so that we do not miss Yaya as much. So like Fernandinho/Paulinho maybe.Stoned Rose said:Cringeworthy thread, especially the OP.
We have the best defensive record in the league and look as solid as we ever have.
We are creating chances even against huge parked buses of 11 men on the 18 yard box for 90 minutes.
The only reason we aren't top of the league is a tendency to not take our chances and put games to bed.
No need at all for large scale or ruthless clear outs.
Imo we need to add:
A 25+ goals a season guaranteed striker such as Cavani, Falcoa or Suarez. (Look at the RVP Factor at Utd)
A creative 'silva type' midfielder, to do what we thought Nasri would do but doesn't.
A fast, direct winger (or wide player) such as Ben Arfa, Lennon, Bale or Oxlade.
There will be a clear out but in reality it is all deadwood. There is nothing 'ruthless' about that.
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Rammy Blue said:moomba said:Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:how have you not included richards or milner in your safe list. Besides milner is meant to be signing a new contract. The only players that will leave will be the dead wood and players that were going to leave anyway- tevez.
If he signs a contract so be it. But he strikes me as the type that wants to play week in week out. We might not be able to guaranteed that. So rather than us getting rid I can still see him looking for a move, particularly if he ends up having another stretch on the bench.
Yep, I like Jimmy but as I said if someone offers us 15mil for him then we'd rip their arm off. Micah is made of glass and can't be relied upon so again if we got offered good dough then I'm sure we'd let him go.
we are not going to get rid of an academy player, who when fit is one of the best RBs in the league. that would be stupid. we are already struggling with a lack of homegrown players.
Milner is an intergral part of the team and more often than not does play week in and out ????
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:Rammy Blue said:moomba said:If he signs a contract so be it. But he strikes me as the type that wants to play week in week out. We might not be able to guaranteed that. So rather than us getting rid I can still see him looking for a move, particularly if he ends up having another stretch on the bench.
Yep, I like Jimmy but as I said if someone offers us 15mil for him then we'd rip their arm off. Micah is made of glass and can't be relied upon so again if we got offered good dough then I'm sure we'd let him go.
we are not going to get rid of an academy player, who when fit is one of the best RBs in the league. that would be stupid. we are already struggling with a lack of homegrown players.
Milner is an intergral part of the team and more often than not does play week in and out ????
9 starts (plus 4 sub appearances) from 24 in the league. 2 starts (plus 1 sub appearance) from 6 in Europe.
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moomba said:Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:Rammy Blue said:Yep, I like Jimmy but as I said if someone offers us 15mil for him then we'd rip their arm off. Micah is made of glass and can't be relied upon so again if we got offered good dough then I'm sure we'd let him go.
we are not going to get rid of an academy player, who when fit is one of the best RBs in the league. that would be stupid. we are already struggling with a lack of homegrown players.
Milner is an intergral part of the team and more often than not does play week in and out ????
9 starts from 24. 2 starts in Europe.
yes, but this season milner has started more and more games and is becoming a very important player. You need grafters like milner in the team and squad.
i know hes not some fancy foreign name, but without players like him and barry we wouldnt be as good.
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:moomba said:Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:we are not going to get rid of an academy player, who when fit is one of the best RBs in the league. that would be stupid. we are already struggling with a lack of homegrown players.
Milner is an intergral part of the team and more often than not does play week in and out ????
9 starts from 24. 2 starts in Europe.
yes, but this season milner has started more and more games and is becoming a very important player. You need grafters like milner in the team and squad.
i know hes not some fancy foreign name, but without players like him and barry we wouldnt be as good.
As mentioned it might be him looking for a move somewhere he can play week in week out.
9 starts out of 24 in the league suggests he's not as integral as dome would think.