Ryan Dunn (Jackass) RIP

GStar said:
BimboBob said:
Yes we do. He crashed his car at high speed whilst driving a mate somewhere.

In the context of what people are saying, i know the figure 110mph has been banded about, but how would they know that so soon, measured the tyre marks, i don't know? Everyone seems to think it was because of drink, but that's debatable as we've seen already.

No doubt if you have a few and then drive a car at 110mph then you bring the consequences on yourself. But i'm sure every single person on here has made stupid decisions, they just weren't unlucky enough to end quite as badly.

We have facts.

He is dead and so is his passenger.
He wrapped it around a tree at speed.
He put a photo of himself drinking on twitter a few hours before.
He has a conviction for drinking and driving already.

As NF said, if he lost control of his car at high speed then he was driving too fast.

As i said previously, all life lost is sad, especially for someone like the passenger.

Let's see what happens at the inquest, but if alcohol is involved then he was a stupid idiot.

But...no-one deserves to die. Apart from Paedo's and war criminals.
 
Ricster said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Skashion said:
Same story. Two hours, two pints of Kronie, I blew 16/35. Also a big lad and fairly regular drinker. Some people around here don't seem to think that makes a difference are acting as though the same amount of alcohol puts you the same amount over the limit no matter what your size and tolerance. Fucking tards.


Ok - lets keep this simple.
Ignore the booze,even given that medical experts reckon it slows your response time.
He was doing 110mph,which is far too fast, and killed another human being.
Remind me again who the 'fucking tard' is here?

I wish you'd make your mind up, it was the drink driving you had a problem with, but now that that has been shown to be incorrect to all those slating Dunn, you now have a pop at him for speeding?

I'll ask again, since my other post was deleted, have you ever drove at a speed that was breaking the law?

As you are clearly not getting this,I shall try and keep it really simple.
Whether he was slightly under or slightly over the legal driving limit is not the point.
That being that any alcohol whatsoever would have an effect on driving ability at 110mph,and at that speed could well be the nanosecond slowing of his reaction and judgement that made the difference between living and dying.
Of course I have broken the speed limit - everyone has - although never to this extent,and never with this outcome,so your point is pretty much redundant.
Unless you wish to haul every motorist in Britain through the courts for doing 31 in a 30 zone when they weren't even involved in an accident.
 
GStar said:
BimboBob said:
Yes we do. He crashed his car at high speed whilst driving a mate somewhere.

In the context of what people are saying, i know the figure 110mph has been banded about, but how would they know that so soon, measured the tyre marks, i don't know? Everyone seems to think it was because of drink, but that's debatable as we've seen already.

No doubt if you have a few and then drive a car at 110mph then you bring the consequences on yourself. But i'm sure every single person on here has made stupid decisions, they just weren't unlucky enough to end quite as badly.

The 110 mph is from an early news story yesterday and hasn't been confirmed anywhere. It is never an exact science to measure tyre marks due to numerous factors such as surface conditions, mechanical failure etc.

Many people are making huge statements on no evidence at this stage.
 
SWP's back said:
GStar said:
BimboBob said:
Yes we do. He crashed his car at high speed whilst driving a mate somewhere.

In the context of what people are saying, i know the figure 110mph has been banded about, but how would they know that so soon, measured the tyre marks, i don't know? Everyone seems to think it was because of drink, but that's debatable as we've seen already.

No doubt if you have a few and then drive a car at 110mph then you bring the consequences on yourself. But i'm sure every single person on here has made stupid decisions, they just weren't unlucky enough to end quite as badly.

The 110 mph is from an early news story yesterday and hasn't been confirmed anywhere. It is never an exact science to measure tyre marks due to numerous factors such as surface conditions, mechanical failure etc.

Many people are making huge statements on no evidence at this stage.

So there is no truth in the rumour that a sasquatch ran out into the road and at the last minute a space ship swooped down and beamed it up causing the bloke to swerve at the last minute?
 
BimboBob said:
GStar said:
BimboBob said:
Yes we do. He crashed his car at high speed whilst driving a mate somewhere.

In the context of what people are saying, i know the figure 110mph has been banded about, but how would they know that so soon, measured the tyre marks, i don't know? Everyone seems to think it was because of drink, but that's debatable as we've seen already.

No doubt if you have a few and then drive a car at 110mph then you bring the consequences on yourself. But i'm sure every single person on here has made stupid decisions, they just weren't unlucky enough to end quite as badly.

We have facts.

He is dead and so is his passenger.
He wrapped it around a tree at speed.
He put a photo of himself drinking on twitter a few hours before.
He has a conviction for drinking and driving already.

As NF said, if he lost control of his car at high speed then he was driving too fast.

As i said previously, all life lost is sad, especially for someone like the passenger.

Let's see what happens at the inquest, but if alcohol is involved then he was a stupid idiot.

But...no-one deserves to die. Apart from Paedo's and war criminals.

So no party? No bouncy castles? Jelly and ice cream?

:-(
 
BimboBob said:
SWP's back said:
GStar said:
In the context of what people are saying, i know the figure 110mph has been banded about, but how would they know that so soon, measured the tyre marks, i don't know? Everyone seems to think it was because of drink, but that's debatable as we've seen already.

No doubt if you have a few and then drive a car at 110mph then you bring the consequences on yourself. But i'm sure every single person on here has made stupid decisions, they just weren't unlucky enough to end quite as badly.

The 110 mph is from an early news story yesterday and hasn't been confirmed anywhere. It is never an exact science to measure tyre marks due to numerous factors such as surface conditions, mechanical failure etc.

Many people are making huge statements on no evidence at this stage.

So there is no truth in the rumour that a sasquatch ran out into the road and at the last minute a space ship swooped down and beamed it up causing the bloke to swerve at the last minute?


...i've told you before about PMing Buzzer after eating a ploughman's lunch...
 
GStar said:
I agree with some of what you say, but having a 'dangerous driving' law would be almost impossible to implement. There's so many variables that having a limit is the only sensible way to ensure that risk is lowered and managable.

You also can't say that bit in bold, in the same way Alcohol affects people differently, others wil have higher stamina and lower sleep needs.

There is a lot of judging going on in this thread though, and i agree we know nothing about what happened.
We already have dangerous driving now so I don't know why it'd be impossible to enforce. Just have coppers judging like in t'owd days. GATSOs don't tell you anything other than speed. There's a good Top Gear sketch which demonstrates the point. They dressed up someone as a terrorist and drove him past a GATSO under the speed limit. I'd rather a police officer judge that I was being a tit driving past a school at 8:30 at 30 mph than a GATSO judge me for being a tit by going 41 mph on Chester Road at 2 in the morning for instance. People will be far less annoyed about being fined for motoring offences if they know the money is going towards employing someone in a job to do something useful like catch uninsured unMOT'd and unqualified/disqualified drivers; all tasks which require a camera connected to a database but also two plods in a car.

True, but by its nature we're comparing averages here. On average what is the relative increased accident risk of drowsy driving vs drink driving and that's what the facts tell us. This many hours without sleep on average increasings your risk of having an accident versus this level of alcohol. There's always going to be a scale in order to find that average. My point essentially is we've got to accept that we'll never be perfectly fit to drive 100% of the time. You're not living in the real world if you think you can. I'll continue to go to night games and not have a drink, and I'll continue to go to afternoon games and have a pint or two. Cheers muchly. :)
 
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His mate was the one on the right.
 

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