Safe stand - Views changed ?

No standing whatsoever should be allowed in our stadiums.
We have moved on since Victorian times (when the majority of our stadia was built). Seating is by far a much superior 'spectator experience'.
We are in 2012 not 1912.
 
TGR said:
No standing whatsoever should be allowed in our stadiums.
We have moved on since Victorian times (when the majority of our stadia was built). Seating is by far a much superior 'spectator experience'.
We are in 2012 not 1912.
Safe standing is the future not the past. It's a damn site fucking safer than plastic seats that you can fall over, crack and split when going mental celebrating. I have calcified lumps on my shins from repetitive bruising I get from seats. Plus almost all ground I visit apart from ours and Arsenal's, I don't fit in the seats as my legs are too long to sit down. Seating was what 1990s football was about, the future is safe standing.

Football is a sport where fans want to stand up, it's not the theatre.
 
TGR said:
No standing whatsoever should be allowed in our stadiums.
We have moved on since Victorian times (when the majority of our stadia was built). Seating is by far a much superior 'spectator experience'.
We are in 2012 not 1912.

Safe Standing was not around in 1912.

Safe Standing is the solution.

As for this "experience"

Any live event I need to be on my feet for sheer enjoyment.
if I can't get standing at a Concert I don't even go, I feel the same way with Footy - just feels right enjoying the match on my toes.

if you're short, with children, disabled, just don't wanna stand then the option will still be there for you to Sit :)
 
TGR said:
No standing whatsoever should be allowed in our stadiums.
We have moved on since Victorian times (when the majority of our stadia was built). Seating is by far a much superior 'spectator experience'.
We are in 2012 not 1912.

God knows why any football fans would want to stand in safety? :-/

[bigimg]http://www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/_/rsrc/1297898126331/news/germanseat/EheimHoff602.jpg[/bigimg]

If you want to sit fair enough, but I'm sure 1 stand behind either goal could accommodate safe standing.

As it is neraly 3000 City fans stand at every home match.(blocks 111, 110, 109, and the SS) Then add another 2000 fans in the away end lower tier. That's 5000 fans. Nearly 1 in 10 fans prefer to stand at every City home match.
 
jrb said:
TGR said:
No standing whatsoever should be allowed in our stadiums.
We have moved on since Victorian times (when the majority of our stadia was built). Seating is by far a much superior 'spectator experience'.
We are in 2012 not 1912.

God knows why any football fans would want to stand in safety? :-/

[bigimg]http://www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/_/rsrc/1297898126331/news/germanseat/EheimHoff602.jpg[/bigimg]

If you want to sit fair enough, but I'm sure 1 stand behind either goal could accommodate safe standing.

As it is neraly 3000 City fans stand at every home match.(blocks 111, 110, 109, and the SS) Then add another 2000 fans in the away end lower tier. That's 5000 fans. Nearly 1 in 10 fans prefer to stand at every City home match.
My dream is for a third tier added to the South Stand, fuck the away fans off up there like at Newcastle and now Sunderland, and have the whole of East Stand and South Stand Level 1 101-120 safe standing. Our tiers are tiny and just behjnd the goal wouldn't be enough.
 
I genuinely believe that City could be one of the front runners in providing such safe standing when the government gives it the green light, i.e. City might be the first to achieve/set up and working with all the relative rules and legislation in place and practice.

We've got a very well run board and staff, and as many would agree, we need to expand our stadium, maybe not now, but soon. Safe standing could add 5-10,000 in the bottom tiers (North and South stands) and therefore increasing our matchday revenue and attendance.

I'll have graduated from Uni by June next year, after 4 years of doing Planning, and did my dissertation on football stadiums, so hopefully I can find a job in sports/stadia planning and can plan such improvements if and hopefully when they come in.
 
Slicker than Sommeil said:
I genuinely believe that City could be one of the front runners in providing such safe standing when the government gives it the green light, i.e. City might be the first to achieve/set up and working with all the relative rules and legislation in place and practice.

We've got a very well run board and staff, and as many would agree, we need to expand our stadium, maybe not now, but soon. Safe standing could add 5-10,000 in the bottom tiers (North and South stands) and therefore increasing our matchday revenue and attendance.

I'll have graduated from Uni by June next year, after 4 years of doing Planning, and did my dissertation on football stadiums, so hopefully I can find a job in sports/stadia planning and can plan such improvements if and hopefully when they come in.

You are right, City want to expand the capacity and they can do so (for domestic games) using the safe standing way for peanuts rather than adding another tier behind the goals.
 
GazC said:
danburge82 said:
GazC said:
Danke Ruhr

Dusseldorf vs Hertha also got coverage of crowd trouble on SSN

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thelocal.de/sport/20120516-42565.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thelocal.de/sport/20120516-42565.html</a>
These things aren't because of safe standing and it shouldn't be confused as so.

There are probably hundreds of YouTube vids of crowd trouble at all-seater stadiums.

The trouble has always started in the safe standing sections in these examples; it's for this reason many German ministers have called for the areas to be scrapped.

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Absolutly nothing to do with safe standing or not.
Its just that these guys are standing/sitting on the cheapest places in the stadium.So when there seats inserted they are still there.

Its not a matter of standing or sitting.
 
Schalker said:
GazC said:
danburge82 said:
These things aren't because of safe standing and it shouldn't be confused as so.

There are probably hundreds of YouTube vids of crowd trouble at all-seater stadiums.

The trouble has always started in the safe standing sections in these examples; it's for this reason many German ministers have called for the areas to be scrapped.



Absolutly nothing to do with safe standing or not.
Its just that these guys are standing/sitting on the cheapest places in the stadium.So when there seats inserted they are still there.

Its not a matter of standing or sitting.


Yep, I posted as much too and totally agree. However when this comes to be debated in our parliament rather than use the German model as a good example our politicians that are opposed to standing areas in football grounds will point to these examples and say "look what happens when you install standing areas", not taking into account this would have happened regardless.
 

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