Sajid Javid

[KS55]

To be fair he's a Tory and that is what they believe in. It's a very mean spirited philosophy but expecting any of them to be different is a waste of time.
Perhaps they should just give it to Ken Clarke on a temporary basis.

You are right about their philosophy. Spending cuts were necessary,(wrongly dubbed austerity) but, typically, they fell on the poorest, weakest section of society. Did Tories realise how just many families would be pushed into poverty, or did they just not care? Baffles me...why would anybody, whatever their philosophy, produce a society as seemingly uncaring as we now are?
The bedroom tax sums it up.....move to a smaller house or pay a premium.....ok, where are the smaller social houses?
PS Edit. I'm mad as hell, and I just can't take it any more. Never been so angry at politics. Hungry children, what a disgrace.

 

[blueonblue]

Spoken like a man who hasn’t a clue about what leaving without a deal would be like or doesn’t kkgive two f*cks’.

No, spoken like a man who knows what no deal would mean for the EU, stop falling for the bull shite and think for yourself.

Just where do the EU sell their goods when we are gone ?, why on earth do you think there are things we can not make ourselves or buy elsewhere in the world (Cheaper for the most part, have a look at the EU tariff loading's to protect their industries).

If they were genuine with wanting a good trading relationship it should have been as simple as agreeing common standards of goods and services, most already in place, but instead they have played politics with a co-operative British political class, who want to keep their EU bolt holes open to ensure a few more years on the public tit when voted out here.

Its to everyone's advantage to have a fair deal, but the EU will never allow one while we continue to play their games with their rules, its nothing but a glorified trade club with delusions of grandeur, the sooner we are out from under the bunch of crooks the better for everyone.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

No, spoken like a man who knows what no deal would mean for the EU, stop falling for the bull shite and think for yourself.

Just where do the EU sell their goods when we are gone ?, why on earth do you think there are things we can not make ourselves or buy elsewhere in the world (Cheaper for the most part, have a look at the EU tariff loading's to protect their industries).

If they were genuine with wanting a good trading relationship it should have been as simple as agreeing common standards of goods and services, most already in place, but instead they have played politics with a co-operative British political class, who want to keep their EU bolt holes open to ensure a few more years on the public tit when voted out here.

Its to everyone's advantage to have a fair deal, but the EU will never allow one while we continue to play their games with their rules, its nothing but a glorified trade club with delusions of grandeur, the sooner we are out from under the bunch of crooks the better for everyone.

Like I said, spoken like a man who hasn't a clue what he is talking about. Trotting out the same claptrap that the 'newspapers' have been churning out and falling for it. You are correct though try thinking for yourself, if you can.

 

[blueonblue]

Like I said, spoken like a man who hasn't a clue what he is talking about. Trotting out the same claptrap that the 'newspapers' have been churning out and falling for it. You are correct though try thinking for yourself, if you can.

Then you wont have any trouble answering such a simple little question will you ?. ;0)

 

[oldtimerdiscopants]

Like I said, spoken like a man who hasn't a clue what he is talking about. Trotting out the same claptrap that the 'newspapers' have been churning out and falling for it. You are correct though try thinking for yourself, if you can.

Which news outlet are you using to get your information?

That's a genuine question mate.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Then you wont have any trouble answering such a simple little question will you ?. ;0)

This country is one of the top 6 nations in the world. Is that because we are in the EU or outside? Don't take to long to work that out.

 

[blueonblue]

This country is one of the top 6 nations in the world. Is that because we are in the EU or outside? Don't take to long to work that out.

So you can not answer such a simple question ?.

Yours, despite being no more than a wriggle to avoid answering mine, is easy.

This country, like all member countries, got some benefit from what was a trade zone before it morphed into a political ideology, it also suffered the losses in heavy engineering/ steel production/fishing/agriculture to pander to the protective policies of France/Germany, to try and attribute our position in the world to EU membership is so simplistic as to be borderline retarded.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

So you can not answer such a simple question ?.

Yours, despite being no more than a wriggle to avoid answering mine, is easy.

This country, like all member countries, got some benefit from what was a trade zone before it morphed into a political ideology, it also suffered the losses in heavy engineering/ steel production/fishing/agriculture to pander to the protective policies of France/Germany, to try and attribute our position in the world to EU membership is so simplistic as to be borderline retarded.

So, it's not true then? We are not one of the best countries in the world and you call me a idiot?

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Spoken like a man who hasn’t a clue about what leaving without a deal would be like or doesn’t kkgive two f*cks’.

The vast majority of those occupying the red and green benches in Westminster haven't a clue what a deal would mean, nor have they a clue what a no deal would mean. Never has bluster assuaged so many politicos.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

The vast majority of those occupying the red and green benches in Westminster haven't a clue what a deal would mean, nor have they a clue what a no deal would mean. Never has bluster assuaged so many politicos.

Think you are quite right. Makes you wonder how we got in this mess. :)