Sajid Javid

But what you quoted of mine is true, we flogged our national industries and let our manurfactoring base dwindle, that is our fault not europes

The EU had the plan of dividing up europe along the lines of Germany getting heavy engineering/chemicals/car manufacturing, France agriculture, Spain and co fishing, with the rest providing cheap labour/customers, we got financial services and a few other crumbs.

It is the politicians that went along with this, but it was the EU that empowered it.
 
The EU had the plan of dividing up europe along the lines of Germany getting heavy engineering/chemicals/car manufacturing, France agriculture, Spain and co fishing, with the rest providing cheap labour/customers, we got financial services and a few other crumbs.

It is the politicians that went along with this, but it was the EU that empowered it.

where was that plan published?
 
How would you suggest you cut the benefits of people NOT on benefits?

Better off people don't get money spent on them (other than the NHS), so spending cuts necessarily fall on the poorest, don't they? How do you cut spending, without impacting poor people?
You are assuming that cuts to benefits is where the burden should lie.
Plenty of candidates other than the poorest, but if you want to cut benefits, how about those couples earning 40, 000 plus who can claim family income supplement. I myself am entitled to disability living allowance merely because I need a handle to get out of the bath and sometimes walk with a stick, but I woulnt say I was disabled.
But the real burden should be born by the strongest, and taxation is the surest way to cut spending.
 
So rumours going round that if May is kicked to the kerb that Sajid is the most likely to get the support of most tories as a a middle of the road candidate between the hard line nuttters and passionate remainers.
Now it's no secret that he wants the job anyway, so let's look at mans record.

  • Almost always voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")
  • Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
  • Almost always voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed
  • Almost always voted for raising the threshold at which people start to pay income tax
  • Almost always voted for increasing the rate of VAT
  • Consistently voted for higher taxes on plane tickets
  • Almost always voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000
  • Almost always voted against a banker’s bonus tax
  • Almost always voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
  • Consistently voted for reforming the NHS so GPs buy services on behalf of their patients
  • Voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year
  • Almost always voted for academy schools
  • Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities
  • Consistently voted for merging police and fire services under Police and Crime Commissioners
  • Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change
  • Generally voted against a publicly owned railway system, almost always voted against slowing the rise in rail fares
  • Generally voted against greater regulation of gambling
  • Almost always voted for restricting the scope of legal aid
  • Consistently voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail
All these facts are available online, but looking at it..


Nah he is worse than May in fact he is a terrible person

GE or nothing, no other tory should be appointed to deal with this without the countries approval

I like him.
 
The EU had the plan of dividing up europe along the lines of Germany getting heavy engineering/chemicals/car manufacturing, France agriculture, Spain and co fishing, with the rest providing cheap labour/customers, we got financial services and a few other crumbs.

It is the politicians that went along with this, but it was the EU that empowered it.

Fucking bollocks
 
You are assuming that cuts to benefits is where the burden should lie.
Plenty of candidates other than the poorest, but if you want to cut benefits, how about those couples earning 40, 000 plus who can claim family income supplement. I myself am entitled to disability living allowance merely because I need a handle to get out of the bath and sometimes walk with a stick, but I woulnt say I was disabled.
But the real burden should be born by the strongest, and taxation is the surest way to cut spending.

As an expert on PIP and it’s application rules (DLA was abolished years ago) would you please tell me what level of PIP you get and in which category and where you went for your mandatory PIP interview?
Because what you describe would not qualify you for either DLA and certainly not it’s replacement PIP.

Or are you a “I could get it but I don’t” bullshitter?
 
As an expert on PIP and it’s application rules (DLA was abolished years ago) would you please tell me what level of PIP you get and in which category and where you went for your mandatory PIP interview?
Because what you describe would not qualify you for either DLA and certainly not it’s replacement PIP.

Or are you a “I could get it but I don’t” bullshitter?
Dont call me a bullshitter. I was advised some years ago, when my condition was diagnosed (I could not actually walk at the time) to apply for DLA, and was told that certain difficulties or needs (such as I quoted) were used as evidence.
Thankfully, my treatment regime has given me great respite and I function normally. I am also fortunate to enjoy a generous occupational pension and I would feel most uncomfortable claiming a benefit I dont need. Apologies if my understanding is out of date, but that's as it was at the time.
My point(in answer to another poster) was that I conceded his argument that there are some genuine savings to be had in the area of benefits, but without them falling on the weakest.
Get off your high horse, and be civil.
 
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