Salary

BlueBearBoots said:
Been in a similar position before - get yourself another job and increase your salary that way why would you want to work for a lying cheeting company that don't deliver? You are worth more than that and there are companies out there that appreciate that
I've also been in that situation many years ago but would offer a word of caution. I was brought in to a company on a low grade but was doing a much more high-profile strategic project and doing it well. Like you I was promised a substantial rise at my next review. When that came I got the same sort of story. It was a great company but I put myself on the market to get an idea of what my skills were worth and it appeared they were worth a lot more. One offer pretty well doubled my existing package so I took it. However it wasn't quite as straightforward as that because the new company was horrendous to work for.

After 12 months I contacted my old company and went back there. Initially it was on a freelance basis but when a permanent position came up they offered it to me with a much better salary than I'd been on when I left.

So I'd suggest you get an idea of what you're worth on the market by applying for jobs and getting offers. If you don't get anything then you're a bit stuffed but if you do then you've got a stick to use. If they want to keep you they'll find a way but you have to go in and make a case without being overly threatening. If they call your bluff then you have to be prepared to hand your notice in. But think very carefully if that's really what you want to do. All that glitters is not gold.
 
BlueBearBoots said:
Been in a similar position before - get yourself another job and increase your salary that way why would you want to work for a lying cheeting company that don't deliver? You are worth more than that and there are companies out there that appreciate that

Cheers BBB, but I've just uprooted my life to move to the area, and I'd rather persevere. If that means sticking with my current salary then so be it.

Helmet Cole said:
Agree but politely let them know you are dissapointed, stipulate a review in another month or two - perhaps the start of the new financial year. Continue to work hard and don't let this affect your outward attitude or performance. That way you will justify at least the promised raise, or at least have an impressive cv for your next employer.
My guess is that unless you have done something you haven't put in the op your boss is just trying to keep wages within a budget (which will be one of his performance indicators) and you are the unlucky one - nothing personal.

Thanks, sounds like decent advice.
 
Whilst I'm no HR Guru, I've worked for a number of large firms over the years. You're probably best taking it on the chin for the time being - Use this as a learning curve.

Whenever you have an appraisal or meeting that involves discussions relating to any sort of contractual change, always send an e-mail to your boss so you have a record of the discussion. Without getting this sort of stuff in writing, there's no comeback and nine times out of ten, you're more likely to end up with a P45 than the rise you were promised.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
jimharri said:
Did you get the promise of the pay rise in writing?

Unfortunately not Jim, he said it in my end of probation hearing.

Probably some naivety going on there. Admittedly.
Not really many options open for you then. As others have said, if you're really unhappy there jack it in and take your chances in the job market. Otherwise, sit tight and ask for another review in six months. As you have found out, and have alluded to in your reply to me, verbal promises/agreements are not worth a shit. Take it from me; I know.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
BlueBearBoots said:
Been in a similar position before - get yourself another job and increase your salary that way why would you want to work for a lying cheeting company that don't deliver? You are worth more than that and there are companies out there that appreciate that
I've also been in that situation many years ago but would offer a word of caution. I was brought in to a company on a low grade but was doing a much more high-profile strategic project and doing it well. When it came time to review my salary I got the same sort of story. It was a great company but I put myself on the market to get an idea of what my skills were worth and it appeared they were worth a lot more. One offer pretty well doubled my existing package so I took it. However it wasn't quite as straightforward as that because the new company was horrendous to work for.

After 12 months I contacted my old company and went back there. Initially it was on a freelance basis but when a permanent position came up they offered it to me with a much better salary than I'd been on when I left.

So I'd suggest you get an idea of what you're worth on the market by applying for jobs and getting offers. If you don't get anything then you're a bit stuffed but if you do then you've got a stick to use. If they want to keep you they'll find a way but you have to go in and make a case without being overly threatening. If they call your bluff then you have to be prepared to hand your notice in. But think very carefully if that's really what you want to do. All that glitters is not gold.


More good advice (see, this place isn't so bad).

A friend with the same degree and similar experience to me has just got a job that's about 50% up on what I earn so I think it's possible I could be worth more, but as you say, I've got to be sure before taking that kind of action.
 
Best company I worked for was one where salaries were public knowledge. If you thought you were out of line you could check with your colleagues and, if you had a case, argue it with your manager. If you could show that your skills, experience & performance were similar to someone else who was earning significantly more, then they would usually agree.
 
Here's my take. I had a very similar situation when I started my job a few years back and in the end I stuck it out and it worked out ok.

Ask them what it'd take for you to be worth a rise to them despite what they've said. Show you're mad keen and working hard but want to progress and would like a conversation about "career" and "progression". Stay positive at work but at the end of the day if they fob you off, get looking at jobs. You've got a bit of experience under your belt so are in a better position than 5 months ago so play the slow game and if you go down this route, don't jump ship before finding the follow-up job. Good luck with it.
 
move on for more money if you can

if you can't then swallow your pride till you ensure that you can
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
BlueBearBoots said:
Been in a similar position before - get yourself another job and increase your salary that way why would you want to work for a lying cheeting company that don't deliver? You are worth more than that and there are companies out there that appreciate that
I've also been in that situation many years ago but would offer a word of caution. I was brought in to a company on a low grade but was doing a much more high-profile strategic project and doing it well. Like you I was promised a substantial rise at my next review. When that came I got the same sort of story. It was a great company but I put myself on the market to get an idea of what my skills were worth and it appeared they were worth a lot more. One offer pretty well doubled my existing package so I took it. However it wasn't quite as straightforward as that because the new company was horrendous to work for.

After 12 months I contacted my old company and went back there. Initially it was on a freelance basis but when a permanent position came up they offered it to me with a much better salary than I'd been on when I left.

So I'd suggest you get an idea of what you're worth on the market by applying for jobs and getting offers. If you don't get anything then you're a bit stuffed but if you do then you've got a stick to use. If they want to keep you they'll find a way but you have to go in and make a case without being overly threatening. If they call your bluff then you have to be prepared to hand your notice in. But think very carefully if that's really what you want to do. All that glitters is not gold.

Do you mind me asking what line of work you're in? I'm interested in setting up on my own once I'm qualified, but wouldn't really know where to start.
 

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