Salford City programme!

Wilf Wild 1937 said:
Salford isn't a conurbation in it's own right. It is part of the Manchester conurbation. In terms of local authorities it is pretty big at just under a quarter of a million people but there are several local authorities, both urban and rural, that don't have league teams but have bigger populations. Enfield has over 300,000 people for example.
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Yeah, perhaps my use of the term 'conurbation' was a little imprecise and clumsy. Dividing it by local authority isn't accurate either. Nottingham, for example, has four local authorities within its urban area: Nottingham city; Gedling; Broxtowe and Rushcliffe - which is why the crime figures for 'Nottingham' are always so bad, as all the areas of high crime are within the first of those four.

I'd discounted anything within the M25 as a stand alone 'conurbation', as Enfield was when I visited there a few weeks ago, handily placed at the end of the A1, pretty much.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I'd discounted anything within the M25 as a stand alone 'conurbation', as Enfield was when I visited there a few weeks ago, handily placed at the end of the A1, pretty much.
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The comparison between Salford and a London borough such as Enfield is probably as like for like as we can get. Really London is under represented in terms of league clubs which I guess is due to the historic nature of the league: being started purely by northern and midland professional clubs in the Victorian era. London still hasn't really caught up!
 
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
The comparison between Salford and a London borough such as Enfield is probably as like for like as we can get. Really London is under represented in terms of league clubs which I guess is due to the historic nature of the league: being started purely by northern and midland professional clubs in the Victorian era. London still hasn't really caught up!
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Not sure I completely agree with you there mate, at least at the top of the football pyramid. If you look at capital cities like Paris, Madrid, Rome and Berlin they have (off the top of my head) one or two clubs in the top flight whereas London currently has five - six if you want to stretch credibilty a little and include Watford. This isn't an untypical figure either. It's why London has never produced a true footballing giant (although Arsenal are close) and why the European Cup had only ended up in London once. The support is spread much more thinly.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It's why London has never produced a true footballing giant (although Arsenal are close) and why the European Cup had only ended up in London once. The support is spread much more thinly.
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It's interesting that there are really only 3 genuinely big clubs in London though whereas there are 2 in Manchester, 2 in Liverpool, 1 in Birmingham (struggling badly) and 2 in the North East (both struggling badly). London is about four times bigger than either Manchester or Birmingham (urban area population) and considerably bigger than all other cities. Really they should dominate based purely on population. Arsenal, as their biggest club, are serious underachievers. Paris is an even stranger situation: I really don't know how to explain that one! Turkey and Argentina are dominated by clubs from Istanbul and Buenos Aires. Really I think it's all based upon historical factors unless somebody can give a better explanation.
 
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