Impeccable One
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Sam Allardyce: Epitome of why English football has lagged behind
- Thread starter Neville Kneville
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Honestly some of the people on here
Allardyce is bang on
You don't play that way againt us as were the best at pressing
You do it against other teams
Look at Liverpool against us...maybe its time we tweaked it in the next game to not play into their hands
Can't all play the same way
Allardyce is bang on
You don't play that way againt us as were the best at pressing
You do it against other teams
Look at Liverpool against us...maybe its time we tweaked it in the next game to not play into their hands
Can't all play the same way
The Stockport Iniesta
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I prefer football played out from the back, but if the keeper isn't capable then it create's more problem's than it solves.
mac
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Football has moved on from that period. Fat Sam hasn't.There's a lot of sniffiness on here.
We are playing football from the gods. This is not the norm. We have the best coach in the world, some of the best training facilities and one of the world's biggest budgets. Our football is unique.
Allardyce has consistently overachieved in every job he has taken. Whether that is getting mid table teams into Europe, relegation threatened teams safe, or teams promoted - he has done it every time. Usually on a shoestring budget.
I watched his Bolton side on a number of occasions (my mate is a fan), and their football at home was no worse on the eye than the majority of English teams. And it was usually effective.
Cast your minds back too - most of us would gladly have taken him at City 04-07 period.
SpiritofBurnden
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Football has moved on from that period. Fat Sam hasn't.
If that's the case, how was he able to manage a team that finished above twelve other teams last season?
mac
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Well if you want to watch that shit fair play. 40 thousand Everton fans were wrong to get rid. How the hell has he the audacity to call another managers tactics is beyond me. Oh wait it's ok because it's Jonny foreigner.
Fame Monster
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Horses for courses.
Cech can’t play out from the back, full stop. He’s not gonna suddenly develop the technical ability to do it, the potential and ability just isn’t there. Frank de Boer tried doing it, disastrously. Southgate managed to trick the English press that he was a good manager despite getting beat off every half decent team by saying ‘I want to play out from the back’. Allardyce is a clever man with a very good record albeit with an ugly but effective style of football.
The true idiots in English football are the ones who who rather endure a pretty 5 nil loss than win an game ugly 1-0. Allardyce has been doing it for years and United won 13 titles by doing the same a lot of the time.
Cech can’t play out from the back, full stop. He’s not gonna suddenly develop the technical ability to do it, the potential and ability just isn’t there. Frank de Boer tried doing it, disastrously. Southgate managed to trick the English press that he was a good manager despite getting beat off every half decent team by saying ‘I want to play out from the back’. Allardyce is a clever man with a very good record albeit with an ugly but effective style of football.
The true idiots in English football are the ones who who rather endure a pretty 5 nil loss than win an game ugly 1-0. Allardyce has been doing it for years and United won 13 titles by doing the same a lot of the time.
tommo74
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Funny really as the long ball seems to work wonders for the scum against the dippers, yet pep would rather take a beating from the dippers than actually change tactics for 1 gameI 100% get what your saying, but if that long ball works for a team (and I don't think it does for either Wolves or Everton) then I don't think we're in a position to sit all high and mighty about what style of football others should play just because we're incredibly blessed to watch City week in week out.
The high intensity, passing football that we play relies on having exceptional players in each position, and if just one or two of your team can't do it, then it falls down. Look at Peps first season and how some members of the squad struggled then. And these were players far superior to those that are at some of the lower premier league clubs...
HelloCity
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Pickford, Maguire, Young, Henderson etc as well.
Larry Stranger
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I think there are 2 facets when talking about playing out from the back. One is goal kicks. I think that on goal kicks there are times when you need to hoof it long. Even we've done it on occasion. We do have set plays where Ederson kicks it to the middle of the pitch and Sane gets a hold of it, but when the opposition push high up and space is tight, it's hard to play out from the back at times and you should go long especially if you're a team like Arsenal who aren't good it yet.
The other is when the ball is won in open play and gets played back to the keeper. This I feel is where you must try to play though pressure. The opposition isn't totally set in a position to press effectively and you must try to keep the ball. Having it go back to the keeper only having him hoof it long will most times send it right back to you. We are good at playing from the back in both cases, but I feel most teams should try to at least work on the latter.
The other is when the ball is won in open play and gets played back to the keeper. This I feel is where you must try to play though pressure. The opposition isn't totally set in a position to press effectively and you must try to keep the ball. Having it go back to the keeper only having him hoof it long will most times send it right back to you. We are good at playing from the back in both cases, but I feel most teams should try to at least work on the latter.