Sam Kerr

[Mon Autre]

Mixed race. Why?

Because how people experience the world and prejudice can be different depending on the different groups they belong to,

I've been called a white bitch before. The race element didn't really bother me, but as a woman, when you're called a bitch by a man, that feels more harmful and problematic.

 

[domalino]

I don't think power has anything to do with it. If you insult somebody based on the colour of their skin, that's racist.

Ive got thick skin so it wouldn't bother me, doesn't make it any less racist

It is, but this misses a lot. At the end of the day, skin colour or race is just one of dozens of human genetic characteristics we are born with and can't change about ourselves, so why is it inherently so much more offensive to insult someone based on their skin colour than any of the others like eye colour or hair colour or height or...anything?

The answer is simply because for 500 years, one race was treated as if they were subhuman and were systematically exploited for the others' gain, leading to a very painful, bloody, centuries long struggle that's still not complete for people of all colour to be equals. The entire concept of dividing humans into races came about in the 17th century to justify transatlantic slavery.

So when you remove all that history behind insulting someone over their race, it's still racist, but it lacks the same weight of insult, it's not transporting the person you say it to back to a time when they were literally regarded as not human, because removing black people's humanity was the only way for the Church to square away slavery and christianity in the 15th-19th centuries.

 

[CTID1988]

It is, but this misses a lot. At the end of the day, skin colour or race is just one of dozens of human genetic characteristics we are born with and can't change about ourselves, so why is it inherently so much more offensive to insult someone based on their skin colour than any of the others like eye colour or hair colour or height or...anything?

The answer is simply because for 500 years, one race was treated as if they were subhuman and were systematically exploited for the others' gain, leading to a very painful, bloody, centuries long struggle that's still not complete for people of all colour to be equals. The entire concept of dividing humans into races came about in the 17th century to justify transatlantic slavery.

So when you remove all that history behind insulting someone over their race, it's still racist, but it lacks the same weight of insult, it's not transporting the person you say it to back to a time when they were literally regarded as not human, because removing black people's humanity was the only way for the Church to square away slavery and christianity in the 15th-19th centuries.

I know you weren't to know, but just letting you know that you are explaining this to somebody who is black haha :)

 

[domalino]

I know you weren't to know, but just letting you know that you are explaining this to somebody who is black haha :)

I actually did see your comment about being mixed race, but I'm always aware that when I write a comment on a thread like this, it's probably going to be read and I'm probably going to get replies from more than the person I'm replying to, so better to overexplain your point then get half a dozen replies from people who lack the wider context taking umbrage.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

I don't think power has anything to do with it. If you insult somebody based on the colour of their skin, that's racist.

Ive got thick skin so it wouldn't bother me, doesn't make it any less racist

Respectfully, I disagree with your first point while agreeing with your second because I think both can be true. Power is a lot to do with it. If you insult somebody's hair colour then nobody gives a fuck because that isn't symptomatic of a system that has been set up to be very deliberately prejudiced against them.

Insulting a white person purely on the basis of their skin colour is racist, we agree on that, but that doesn't mean it comes with the same cultural and societal weight as more mendacious and institutionalised forms of racism. I don't think you can disentangle the two so easily. Racism against minority groups isn't just frowned upon because it is name-calling, it is a judgment against everything that tends to come with the name-calling. That's why we tend to come down on it so heavily.

That doesn't make the insults themselves okay - and I'd admonish anybody for insulting somebody based on a protected characteristic, regardless of what that is. I'm only saying that some insults come very loaded, others not so much - and that's mostly down to power dynamics.

 

[55yr old teenager]

Because how people experience the world and prejudice can be different depending on the different groups they belong to,

I've been called a white bitch before. The race element didn't really bother me, but as a woman, when you're called a bitch by a man, that feels more harmful and problematic.

Agree, I hate that word to be used against women. It does not matter whether its male or female using it.

 

[Pell]

Maybe she's not a conscious racist.

 

[diamond geezer]

I understand the logic behind the "post-colonial guilt", but how does your justice system view the matter? Is "stupid white driver" less of an offense than "stupid black driver"? (I'm just curious, hoping not to offend anyone)

 

[cheekybids]

Her mixed race is attributed to her white English Grandfather & her Indian Grandmother. She comes from a real sporting background her brother & Father were AFL players & I think there’s jockeys, basketball players & boxers in her lineage.

She seemed a safe bet to have her name on the the newly opened State Football centre.

She’s said it, it’s wrong it’s racist. Is Oz racist, well it was built on white Australia policy & has a dark history including genocide but as someone who’s lived here 20 years I’d say you are far more likely to be called something racist & accepted at the same time. They aren’t very good at being politically correct & that’s quite refreshing outside of corporate Australia.

I don’t believe she’s racist, but let the court deal with it.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Update for anyone arsed

Sam Kerr called policeman ‘stupid and white’ after late-night taxi dispute

Matildas star’s night out ended in a row with a cab driver and her allegedly being abusive to PC Stephen Lovell

www.theguardian.com

 

[Aphex]

Update for anyone arsed

Sam Kerr called policeman ‘stupid and white’ after late-night taxi dispute

Matildas star’s night out ended in a row with a cab driver and her allegedly being abusive to PC Stephen Lovell

www.theguardian.com

She needs sacking. A white player would. Or at least a 1 year ban.

 

[better dead than red]

Update for anyone arsed

Sam Kerr called policeman ‘stupid and white’ after late-night taxi dispute

Matildas star’s night out ended in a row with a cab driver and her allegedly being abusive to PC Stephen Lovell

www.theguardian.com

Interesting. Sam Kerr has lived and worked in England for a number of years but "isn't from the UK and doesn't know the police emergency number" but she knows enough to reference Sarah Everard.

She sounds like an entitled awful person who tried to get out of something she did because of who she is and what she does for a living. I'd be happy to see her in jail for a while.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Update for anyone arsed

Sam Kerr called policeman ‘stupid and white’ after late-night taxi dispute

Matildas star’s night out ended in a row with a cab driver and her allegedly being abusive to PC Stephen Lovell

www.theguardian.com

After reading that, it seems that the copper is piling up the charges.

I feel like she’s saying they thought one thing was happening, which it WAS! They asked to go somewhere and he took them somewhere else…and there was no way of knowing it was a police station.

They were apparently drunk and said a few things the copper didn’t like.

There’s no way she gets done on a racist charge, and I’ll say it again, Britain is on a very slippery slope with its complete lack of freedom of speech.

I know, I know, “it’s hate speech!” NOPE…but, if you were Sam Kerr and you’d been getting it all your life, I think you might have a few feelings about a couple of white guys stitching you up.

Fine her for D&D, plus the damage and clean up, tell the cabbie to drive people to places they have asked to go, not in directions that might instill fear in them and give her a warning for her language, because we are all seem to feel a bit touchy about her daring to state a fact.

And, before anyone asks, I’m white, grew up in a mixed race family, have Pakistani and Japanese sisters in law and have worked in a highly culturally and racially diverse workplace for the last 30 years.

Everyone needs to calm the fuck down about a teeny little drunken rant!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

She sounds like an entitled awful person who tried to get out of something she did because of who she is and what she does for a living. I'd be happy to see her in jail for a while.

Yeah, that’ll solve everything and cost a fortune for nothing!

You don’t get a custodial over paycheck envy or feeling like someone seems entitled!

World’s gone mad!

 

[better dead than red]

Yeah, that’ll solve everything and cost a fortune for nothing!

You don’t get a custodial over paycheck envy or feeling like someone seems entitled!

World’s gone mad!

I don't have paycheck envy. Unlike many, I don't get into other people's pockets. Earn what you can and good for you.

The guy was trying to earn a living. She, and or her girlfriend, broke the back window of his cab and the partition between the front and back and couldn't care less. Where I live, they don't want anyone in jail for anything, but it will give you a night until you see the judge the next day.

You're difficult to figure out sometimes...

 

[better dead than red]

After reading that, it seems that the copper is piling up the charges.

I feel like she’s saying they thought one thing was happening, which it WAS! They asked to go somewhere and he took them somewhere else…and there was no way of knowing it was a police station.

They were apparently drunk and said a few things the copper didn’t like.

There’s no way she gets done on a racist charge, and I’ll say it again, Britain is on a very slippery slope with its complete lack of freedom of speech.

I know, I know, “it’s hate speech!” NOPE…but, if you were Sam Kerr and you’d been getting it all your life, I think you might have a few feelings about a couple of white guys stitching you up.

Fine her for D&D, plus the damage and clean up, tell the cabbie to drive people to places they have asked to go, not in directions that might instill fear in them and give her a warning for her language, because we are all seem to feel a bit touchy about her daring to state a fact.

And, before anyone asks, I’m white, grew up in a mixed race family, have Pakistani and Japanese sisters in law and have worked in a highly culturally and racially diverse workplace for the last 30 years.

Everyone needs to calm the fuck down about a teeny little drunken rant!

That's exactly what happens and it's usually on recommendation of the attorneys. I'm surprised you don't know this is how it works.

 

[better dead than red]

After reading that, it seems that the copper is piling up the charges.

I feel like she’s saying they thought one thing was happening, which it WAS! They asked to go somewhere and he took them somewhere else…and there was no way of knowing it was a police station.

They were apparently drunk and said a few things the copper didn’t like.

There’s no way she gets done on a racist charge, and I’ll say it again, Britain is on a very slippery slope with its complete lack of freedom of speech.

I know, I know, “it’s hate speech!” NOPE…but, if you were Sam Kerr and you’d been getting it all your life, I think you might have a few feelings about a couple of white guys stitching you up.

Fine her for D&D, plus the damage and clean up, tell the cabbie to drive people to places they have asked to go, not in directions that might instill fear in them and give her a warning for her language, because we are all seem to feel a bit touchy about her daring to state a fact.

And, before anyone asks, I’m white, grew up in a mixed race family, have Pakistani and Japanese sisters in law and have worked in a highly culturally and racially diverse workplace for the last 30 years.

Everyone needs to calm the fuck down about a teeny little drunken rant!

Respectfully, keep those words in mind if anyone ever has one on one of your planes, and I'll limit it to merely before departure or after arrival.

 

[blue by birth]

After reading that, it seems that the copper is piling up the charges.

I feel like she’s saying they thought one thing was happening, which it WAS! They asked to go somewhere and he took them somewhere else…and there was no way of knowing it was a police station.

They were apparently drunk and said a few things the copper didn’t like.

There’s no way she gets done on a racist charge, and I’ll say it again, Britain is on a very slippery slope with its complete lack of freedom of speech.

I know, I know, “it’s hate speech!” NOPE…but, if you were Sam Kerr and you’d been getting it all your life, I think you might have a few feelings about a couple of white guys stitching you up.

Fine her for D&D, plus the damage and clean up, tell the cabbie to drive people to places they have asked to go, not in directions that might instill fear in them and give her a warning for her language, because we are all seem to feel a bit touchy about her daring to state a fact.

And, before anyone asks, I’m white, grew up in a mixed race family, have Pakistani and Japanese sisters in law.. and have worked in a highly culturally and racially diverse workplace for the last 30 years.

Everyone needs to calm the fuck down about a teeny little drunken rant!

Pity she wasn't in America..they would have shot her..

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I don't have paycheck envy. Unlike many, I don't get into other people's pockets. Earn what you can and good for you.

The guy was trying to earn a living. She, and or her girlfriend, broke the back window of his cab and the partition between the front and back and couldn't care less. Where I live, they don't want anyone in jail for anything, but it will give you a night until you see the judge the next day.

You're difficult to figure out sometimes...

Then, in what way is she entitled, if not because she earns a good crust? Surely not her upbringing?!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Respectfully, keep those words in mind if anyone ever has one on one of your planes, and I'll limit it to merely before departure or after arrival.

Have them all the time, and not just before or after. I have a way of dealing with them that doesn’t involve dragging them through the gutter press and labeling them racists.

Oh, and it is, of course, a seriously different thing…and if I did take people somewhere they didn’t specifically request to go, I WOULD be done for kidnapping!