kaz7
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The day i believe anything nasri says is the day i give up, biggest surrender monkey and lazy **** going
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Samir Nasri interview
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Didsbury Dave
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Show me cognitive dissonance in its purest form and I'll show you this post.Show me a manager that is a universally lovely guy at all times to all players and I’ll show you a manager who is a failure.
Show me a player who sees his career begin to fail after leaving a club and I’ll show you a player who will be more than willing to slag off the manager that got rid of him/made him work hard.
Show me a City fan that grew up when we were so shit it was seen as almost cool to support us who then get used to that feeling of being pretty cool and I’ll show you a City fan that hated Mancini.
Anyway, Nasri…fat, lazy, shithouse of a player. Never been missed. Basically stole a living.
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Good read, thanks for sharing.
I agree with Pep that Nasri could have gone on to do even more than he did but, as is always the case, that doesn’t necessarily mean he should have done what was required to fully match his potential. Ultimately it is down to what brings happiness and sometimes players no longer find it in football and it is perfectly ok for them to do what they need to in order to be more content.
I agree with Pep that Nasri could have gone on to do even more than he did but, as is always the case, that doesn’t necessarily mean he should have done what was required to fully match his potential. Ultimately it is down to what brings happiness and sometimes players no longer find it in football and it is perfectly ok for them to do what they need to in order to be more content.
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Not passing personal judgement on Mancini—as I only had two interactions with him and both were pretty neutral—but I think, at the time he came to the club, we needed a ****.The more I hear about Mancini, the less I wish I heard about Mancini. Shame he's such a **** but I guess not all club legends are likeable people.
He was our Klopp: intense short term success strategy with a inevitable crash at the end due to his methods. But, unlike Klopp, he was starting from a much poorer position and so his aggressive man management was necessary to get us over the hump of our first real silverware in decades. His cuntishness built the foundation for Pellegrini’s more thoughtful approach, which in turn provided a framework for Pep’s highly demanding, exacting style, as Nasri referenced in his interview.
TL;DR
Mancini was a ****, but he was the **** we needed.
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I quite liked Nasri and I tend to think the accusations of being a mercenary or lazy are more about assumptions of his character than anything that happened on the pitch.
There’s nothing in this interview which contradicts what’s already been aired about Mancini’s time at City. Wearing a scarf and ‘tearing the banner down’ just struck me as good PR, but the other side of the coin was an ongoing sense of drama and instability which did nothing for performances on the pitch. With the squad we had we should have won the league by far more than goal difference in 2012 and it was Mancini’s intransigence which resulted in Van Persie going to the rags which pretty much cost us the league the following seasons. Tevez being unavailable for much of the 11/12 season because Mancini invented a fictional version of events in Munich was ia sackable offence.
Mancini’s biggest flaw was that he thought he was bigger than the club and could play political games, negotiate with alternative employers, dictate transfer strategy, demand signings on a plate and drive players out of the door without any of it coming back to him. Without getting in to national stereotypes, perhaps he did think City would cheat there way through FFP so he could have five centre forwards, Hazard, AND De Rossi without having to sell anyone despite it being obvious to all and sundry that this was not going to happen.
Prior to joining City Mancini’s record in club management was good but not great and the same could be said for his post City club career. Managing City was the peak of his career but he never realised what he had and let it slip away. Ironically, perhaps the same could be said about Nasri?
As an aside, it's been said that Mancini didn’t do much in the way of team talks and it was usually Kompany who got things organised in the dressing room. One of Mancini’s main weaknesses was that he was quite tactically limited which was very apparent in Europe and on any occasion we played a side using 3,5,2 – the FA Cup final being a prime example.
What I struggle to understand is the masturbatory reverence in which Mancini is still held by people who treat Pellegrini with equal levels of disdain. They won similar amounts but the main difference is that Pellegrini did so under the constraints of FFP and with much better performances in the Champions League.
Mancini did get some big things right - facing down the egos in the squad, putting the pressure back on the rags in 11/12 title race and also taking the heat for the 3-0 defeat at Anfield the Monday before the FA Cup semi-final. However, overall, only achieved the minimum of what he should and by the end of 12/13 had, arguably, set us back.
There’s nothing in this interview which contradicts what’s already been aired about Mancini’s time at City. Wearing a scarf and ‘tearing the banner down’ just struck me as good PR, but the other side of the coin was an ongoing sense of drama and instability which did nothing for performances on the pitch. With the squad we had we should have won the league by far more than goal difference in 2012 and it was Mancini’s intransigence which resulted in Van Persie going to the rags which pretty much cost us the league the following seasons. Tevez being unavailable for much of the 11/12 season because Mancini invented a fictional version of events in Munich was ia sackable offence.
Mancini’s biggest flaw was that he thought he was bigger than the club and could play political games, negotiate with alternative employers, dictate transfer strategy, demand signings on a plate and drive players out of the door without any of it coming back to him. Without getting in to national stereotypes, perhaps he did think City would cheat there way through FFP so he could have five centre forwards, Hazard, AND De Rossi without having to sell anyone despite it being obvious to all and sundry that this was not going to happen.
Prior to joining City Mancini’s record in club management was good but not great and the same could be said for his post City club career. Managing City was the peak of his career but he never realised what he had and let it slip away. Ironically, perhaps the same could be said about Nasri?
As an aside, it's been said that Mancini didn’t do much in the way of team talks and it was usually Kompany who got things organised in the dressing room. One of Mancini’s main weaknesses was that he was quite tactically limited which was very apparent in Europe and on any occasion we played a side using 3,5,2 – the FA Cup final being a prime example.
What I struggle to understand is the masturbatory reverence in which Mancini is still held by people who treat Pellegrini with equal levels of disdain. They won similar amounts but the main difference is that Pellegrini did so under the constraints of FFP and with much better performances in the Champions League.
Mancini did get some big things right - facing down the egos in the squad, putting the pressure back on the rags in 11/12 title race and also taking the heat for the 3-0 defeat at Anfield the Monday before the FA Cup semi-final. However, overall, only achieved the minimum of what he should and by the end of 12/13 had, arguably, set us back.
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I wouldnt swap Nasri for Gundog
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But for the self control of a City Security guy Nasri would have been in hospital simply because of not wanting to go through a door that every other player had gone through! To say he thought himself special is a massive understatement
Quite amusing nasri saying he would beat the shit out of anyone when he ducked out of the way of a ball in the derby.
Wasn't a fan before and not now, shit attitude and shit application. We've left players of nasri's ilk miles behind.
Wasn't a fan before and not now, shit attitude and shit application. We've left players of nasri's ilk miles behind.
Fantastic player when he wanted to be but often delivered in spells and then seemed to take a few weeks/months rest. Bit like Hazard at Chelsea looked like he could win them the league on his own one year and would take the next season off (Nasri not as good). Am indifferent to Nasri in general as he did ok, contributed but not to his full potential and we had better in David Silva, Yaya , Sergio and Carlos. Will have a drink tonight , sleep and slip back into forgetting he played for us which given his ability is slightly sad. Mancini turned us into winners as he pushed and pushed players and only winning and 100% was good enough. Would imagine anyone without same mindset hated him (would not have enjoyed working for him myself given I am currently avoiding decorating duties with a fake muscle pull but can appreciate his work ethic)
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You conveniently seem to have forgotten the position we were in when Mancini joined us. We were shipping goals all over the place. We had to score three goals in match to have any chance of winning it under Hughes. Totally shambolic. Within a matter of weeks we were totally solid and one the best defensive teams in the league. Pellegrini picked up a team who had won trophies and a very recent league title so had the mentality of winners. A completely different position and mentality from what Roberto inherited. Pep then inherited a multi title and trophy winning team. I for one will be forever grateful for what Mancini achieved and did for our club and our fanbase. You obviously are not and that's your call. However, I do believe when it comes to true blues, you are in the category of a very small minority.I quite liked Nasri and I tend to think the accusations of being a mercenary or lazy are more about assumptions of his character than anything that happened on the pitch.
There’s nothing in this interview which contradicts what’s already been aired about Mancini’s time at City. Wearing a scarf and ‘tearing the banner down’ just struck me as good PR, but the other side of the coin was an ongoing sense of drama and instability which did nothing for performances on the pitch. With the squad we had we should have won the league by far more than goal difference in 2012 and it was Mancini’s intransigence which resulted in Van Persie going to the rags which pretty much cost us the league the following seasons. Tevez being unavailable for much of the 11/12 season because Mancini invented a fictional version of events in Munich was ia sackable offence.
Mancini’s biggest flaw was that he thought he was bigger than the club and could play political games, negotiate with alternative employers, dictate transfer strategy, demand signings on a plate and drive players out of the door without any of it coming back to him. Without getting in to national stereotypes, perhaps he did think City would cheat there way through FFP so he could have five centre forwards, Hazard, AND De Rossi without having to sell anyone despite it being obvious to all and sundry that this was not going to happen.
Prior to joining City Mancini’s record in club management was good but not great and the same could be said for his post City club career. Managing City was the peak of his career but he never realised what he had and let it slip away. Ironically, perhaps the same could be said about Nasri?
As an aside, it's been said that Mancini didn’t do much in the way of team talks and it was usually Kompany who got things organised in the dressing room. One of Mancini’s main weaknesses was that he was quite tactically limited which was very apparent in Europe and on any occasion we played a side using 3,5,2 – the FA Cup final being a prime example.
What I struggle to understand is the masturbatory reverence in which Mancini is still held by people who treat Pellegrini with equal levels of disdain. They won similar amounts but the main difference is that Pellegrini did so under the constraints of FFP and with much better performances in the Champions League.
Mancini did get some big things right - facing down the egos in the squad, putting the pressure back on the rags in 11/12 title race and also taking the heat for the 3-0 defeat at Anfield the Monday before the FA Cup semi-final. However, overall, only achieved the minimum of what he should and by the end of 12/13 had, arguably, set us back.