Santi Cazorla

[blumoon]

"I look forward to playing well for Arsenal, then hopefully signing for Manchester City for a lot more money." - Santi Cazorla :-)

 

[blue soon?]

Welcome to Arsenal Santi Cazorla!

Hopefully Sahin next.

Fair play.

Corzola was one of the best La Liga players last terma and Sahin was best German player before his Real move.

Good bit of business for anyone and in particularly Arsenal who need replace Nasri and Fabregas. Not keen on Ramsey since that bad injury as bad as that sounds. I think your midfield looks pretty good now and some real quality there.

From a neutrals point of viww regarding RVP (if I put the possibility of us signing RVP aside) I reckon he should stay. He asked for additions and quality ones at that. You have signed a Podolski, Giroud, Corzola and possibly Sahin. Arsenal imo have kept their end of the argument and now it's RVP.

When everyone is fit and healthy again at Arsenal I see a good squad there.

---------------Chesney'----------------
Sagna-----Kocielny-----Vermalen---Gibbs
-------------Sahin----Song------------
-------Corzola---Arteta---Podolski-------
-------------------RVP------------------

(Replace RVP for Giroud if he leaves, still a good side.)

With Podolski occupying second striker role and Corzola filling. Then you have Wilshere to come back too, so when Sahin goes back Wilshere takes the position.

you'd put arteta out wide ahead of carzola...and walcott and gervinho at that too?
*edit* what, that's changed since i quoted it haha nvm..

 

[NipHolmes]

Silva>Mata

no contest

Mata>Nasri

Mata isn't as good as Silva I agree but it's not miles apart. Mata at set piece is a delight and should we have purchased him over Nasri we could have had a few more goals from set piece. I am happy with Nasri don't get me wrong but I do wish we would have sniffed at Mata when we had chance.

 

[Ray78]

They have done a good bit of transfer business in this window. Arsenal had to strengthen just to try and cement a top 4 place. He is better than Sinclair, but expensive for the squad role he will had to play at City. It is the case of goodbye Arashavin and maybe Walcott with this signing.

 

[CityCTID]

Fee reported to be less than 15m pounds.

£18 million

 

[NipHolmes]

Welcome to Arsenal Santi Cazorla!

Hopefully Sahin next.

Fair play.

Corzola was one of the best La Liga players last terma and Sahin was best German player before his Real move.

Good bit of business for anyone and in particularly Arsenal who need replace Nasri and Fabregas. Not keen on Ramsey since that bad injury as bad as that sounds. I think your midfield looks pretty good now and some real quality there.

From a neutrals point of viww regarding RVP (if I put the possibility of us signing RVP aside) I reckon he should stay. He asked for additions and quality ones at that. You have signed a Podolski, Giroud, Corzola and possibly Sahin. Arsenal imo have kept their end of the argument and now it's RVP.

When everyone is fit and healthy again at Arsenal I see a good squad there.

---------------Chesney'----------------
Sagna-----Kocielny-----Vermalen---Gibbs
-------------Sahin----Song------------
-------Corzola---Arteta---Podolski-------
-------------------RVP------------------

(Replace RVP for Giroud if he leaves, still a good side.)

With Podolski occupying second striker role and Corzola filling. Then you have Wilshere to come back too, so when Sahin goes back Wilshere takes the position.

you'd put arteta out wide ahead of carzola...and walcott and gervinho at that too?

I put it in alphabetically and then changed when I realised, check the edit before you posted.

Walcott will be sold and Gervinho isn't good enough, neither is Walcott if he stays. Podolski offers more of a goal threat, Corzola is superior to Walcott and Arteta is key for making play.

I think my line up is best possible at Arsenal, if you disagree then may I see your line up please.

 

[Joehannes]

Fee reported to be less than 15m pounds.

£18 million

Thought it was circa 16M Euros.

 

[blue12]

Just don't get whats going on at arsenal.let players get within 12 months of being out of contract,comments that players don't like the direction they are going etc but they pull carzola out of the bag and maybe sahin.

 

[CityCTID]

Silva>Mata

no contest

Mata>Nasri

Mata isn't as good as Silva I agree but it's not miles apart. Mata at set piece is a delight and should we have purchased him over Nasri we could have had a few more goals from set piece. I am happy with Nasri don't get me wrong but I do wish we would have sniffed at Mata when we had chance.

apple and orange

 

[NipHolmes]

They have done a good bit of transfer business in this window. Arsenal had to strengthen just to try and cement a top 4 place. He is better than Sinclair, but expensive for the squad role he will had to play at City. It is the case of goodbye Arashavin and maybe Walcott with this signing.

Sinclair makes sense for squad whereas Corzola doesn't. I agree Corzola is a much better player but would he be willing to sit on the bench? Would it even be worthwhile when his fee is £18mill + £80-90k a week (guess) all to sit on bench. That's an expensive option alright, a good one imo but not from a business angle and also he is foreign.

Arshavin will see his contract out imo,
A) Because he can get a great deal when he leaves.
B) Becuase he gets his citizenship after that year I believe, leaving to go abroad would scupper that and I have read he is very keen to live here later in life so a move from Arsenal would jeopardise that unless he moves elsewhere in league.

 

[CityCTID]

Welcome to Arsenal Santi Cazorla!

Hopefully Sahin next.

Sahin to Liverpool, you heard it here first!<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:03 pm --<br /><br />

Fee reported to be less than 15m pounds.

£18 million

Thought it was circa 16M Euros.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/08/07/3291986/official-arsenal-sign-santi-cazorla-from-malaga" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... rom-malaga</a>

 

[Tony101]

Fantastic signing....I dont think many people in england realise how good this little man is. Will be joy to watch him

27 and never played in the EPL - risk at a 20m quantity

Every player is a risk. But when you look at his style, I just dont see how he can fail in this league. he's very similar to Silva in that he relies on his technique, vision and football intelligence. Players like these cant fail in English football as long as they have good attitude. Simple as that. PL is very high paced league, but English football is also very simple. Pires came here when he was 27 from France, achieved even less, but his talent was well known across Europe. Once he figured out the pace, his intelligence shone through and like I said. players like pires, Cazorla and Silva never fails in the PL

 

[blue soon?]

Fair play.

Corzola was one of the best La Liga players last terma and Sahin was best German player before his Real move.

Good bit of business for anyone and in particularly Arsenal who need replace Nasri and Fabregas. Not keen on Ramsey since that bad injury as bad as that sounds. I think your midfield looks pretty good now and some real quality there.

From a neutrals point of viww regarding RVP (if I put the possibility of us signing RVP aside) I reckon he should stay. He asked for additions and quality ones at that. You have signed a Podolski, Giroud, Corzola and possibly Sahin. Arsenal imo have kept their end of the argument and now it's RVP.

When everyone is fit and healthy again at Arsenal I see a good squad there.

---------------Chesney'----------------
Sagna-----Kocielny-----Vermalen---Gibbs
-------------Sahin----Song------------
-------Corzola---Arteta---Podolski-------
-------------------RVP------------------

(Replace RVP for Giroud if he leaves, still a good side.)

With Podolski occupying second striker role and Corzola filling. Then you have Wilshere to come back too, so when Sahin goes back Wilshere takes the position.

you'd put arteta out wide ahead of carzola...and walcott and gervinho at that too?

I put it in alphabetically and then changed when I realised, check the edit before you posted.

Walcott will be sold and Gervinho isn't good enough, neither is Walcott if he stays. Podolski offers more of a goal threat, Corzola is superior to Walcott and Arteta is key for making play.

I think my line up is best possible at Arsenal, if you disagree then may I see your line up please.

I agree with your line up, just arteta on the right and cazorla in the middle threw me off before you changed it. My friend who's an arsenal fan doesn't seem wholely convinced they'll get sahin and thinks cazorla will play in the middle as in:
--------arteta------song
gervinho-----cazorla-----podolski
which makes sense if they don't get him i guess

 

[jlc09]

BBC are saying below 15m pounds. Some sources saying circa 12m.

Good deal either way.

 

[NipHolmes]

Just don't get whats going on at arsenal.let players get within 12 months of being out of contract,comments that players don't like the direction they are going etc but they pull carzola out of the bag and maybe sahin.

I see it like this (maybe wrong).
Arsenal have a wage system where players earn very similar amounts. RVP is the main man and only earned 30k more a week than Almunia did and 10k more than Arshavin does. So RVP, Nasri, Clichy etc see the option of seeing contract out and then negotiating a good deal for themselves which pays them more than they would normally be getting. I think personal gain wage wise is one thing but also they want to be valued. I mean if I was RVP and picked up 90k a week whilst Arshavin picks up his 80k, i'd be pissed off. Not because I wasn't happy with my wage but because I would like to be recognised as a much better player than Arshavin is and would like my salary to reflect that. Running down contracts is the solution out of this.

 

[Ray78]

They have done a good bit of transfer business in this window. Arsenal had to strengthen just to try and cement a top 4 place. He is better than Sinclair, but expensive for the squad role he will had to play at City. It is the case of goodbye Arashavin and maybe Walcott with this signing.

Sinclair makes sense for squad whereas Corzola doesn't. I agree Corzola is a much better player but would he be willing to sit on the bench? Would it even be worthwhile when his fee is £18mill + £80-90k a week (guess) all to sit on bench. That's an expensive option alright, a good one imo but not from a business angle and also he is foreign.

Arshavin will see his contract out imo,
A) Because he can get a great deal when he leaves.
B) Becuase he gets his citizenship after that year I believe, leaving to go abroad would scupper that and I have read he is very keen to live here later in life so a move from Arsenal would jeopardise that unless he moves elsewhere in league.

I agree with all that and I was trying to make that point. I am unsure they will keep Arshavin and like you have said he could sit on his contract, but that will not impress Capello.

 

[Joehannes]

£18 million

Thought it was circa 16M Euros.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/08/07/3291986/official-arsenal-sign-santi-cazorla-from-malaga" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... rom-malaga</a>

Sid Lowe ‏@sidlowe
So, it's finally official. Cazorla signs for Arsenal. Fee not revealed formally. I think it's around 16m Euros. A bargain.

Undisclosed, so anybody's guess.

 

[NipHolmes]

you'd put arteta out wide ahead of carzola...and walcott and gervinho at that too?

I put it in alphabetically and then changed when I realised, check the edit before you posted.

Walcott will be sold and Gervinho isn't good enough, neither is Walcott if he stays. Podolski offers more of a goal threat, Corzola is superior to Walcott and Arteta is key for making play.

I think my line up is best possible at Arsenal, if you disagree then may I see your line up please.

I agree with your line up, just arteta on the right and cazorla in the middle threw me off before you changed it. My friend who's an arsenal fan doesn't seem wholely convinced they'll get sahin and thinks cazorla will play in the middle as in:
--------arteta------song
gervinho-----cazorla-----podolski
which makes sense if they don't get him i guess

I get that but I'd also see a case for Diaby alongside Song which would push Arteta forward (where he should be really) and that means wither Cazorla or Gervinho and Cazorla gets the nod every time for me. I think Gervinho is a poor player to be frank.

What will be most interesting is if they dont get Sahin like your friend reckons. They will be a good team but if they do get him I have them a very good team. Seriously, I really rate Sahin and when he was at Dortmund he was sublime. Him moving to Real was criminal for his career. If he goes to Arsenal I can already see many of our fans asking why we didn't sign him. On a loan it makes so much sense as our exposure is limited!

 

[NipHolmes]

They have done a good bit of transfer business in this window. Arsenal had to strengthen just to try and cement a top 4 place. He is better than Sinclair, but expensive for the squad role he will had to play at City. It is the case of goodbye Arashavin and maybe Walcott with this signing.

Sinclair makes sense for squad whereas Corzola doesn't. I agree Corzola is a much better player but would he be willing to sit on the bench? Would it even be worthwhile when his fee is £18mill + £80-90k a week (guess) all to sit on bench. That's an expensive option alright, a good one imo but not from a business angle and also he is foreign.

Arshavin will see his contract out imo,
A) Because he can get a great deal when he leaves.
B) Becuase he gets his citizenship after that year I believe, leaving to go abroad would scupper that and I have read he is very keen to live here later in life so a move from Arsenal would jeopardise that unless he moves elsewhere in league.

I agree with all that and I was trying to make that point. I am unsure they will keep Arshavin and like you have said he could sit on his contract, but that will not impress Capello.

My post wasn't knocking yours :)

It was simply adding reason. I would have loved Cazorla to be fair, but with all things considered, BUDGET, I see why we are going for Sinclair. English, cheap, young, talented, prem suited, style of play adapted and also happy to learn his trade by judging his past. He will learn lots here and will really help us when it comes to much needed width. I would have cried if we signed Walcott, at 100k a week (if you wanna sign him) he is daylight robbery and also it's another Arsenal player. If we sign any Arsenal players I only want Song or RVP, Song more than RVP as it goes.

 

[Ray78]

Sinclair makes sense for squad whereas Corzola doesn't. I agree Corzola is a much better player but would he be willing to sit on the bench? Would it even be worthwhile when his fee is £18mill + £80-90k a week (guess) all to sit on bench. That's an expensive option alright, a good one imo but not from a business angle and also he is foreign.

Arshavin will see his contract out imo,
A) Because he can get a great deal when he leaves.
B) Becuase he gets his citizenship after that year I believe, leaving to go abroad would scupper that and I have read he is very keen to live here later in life so a move from Arsenal would jeopardise that unless he moves elsewhere in league.

I agree with all that and I was trying to make that point. I am unsure they will keep Arshavin and like you have said he could sit on his contract, but that will not impress Capello.

My post wasn't knocking yours :)

It was simply adding reason. I would have loved Cazorla to be fair, but with all things considered, BUDGET, I see why we are going for Sinclair. English, cheap, young, talented, prem suited, style of play adapted and also happy to learn his trade by judging his past. He will learn lots here and will really help us when it comes to much needed width. I would have cried if we signed Walcott, at 100k a week (if you wanna sign him) he is daylight robbery and also it's another Arsenal player. If we sign any Arsenal players I only want Song or RVP, Song more than RVP as it goes.

No offence taken:). I am happy we are making in roads in the transfer market finally.