Sarah Everard murder | Wayne Couzens given whole-life sentence

[Mr Kobayashi]

the best you can pull out of the weeds is a strawman. Up with the shit you normally pedal.

Way over your head.

Unusually humorous from you, who have you recycled that from? :)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Second time I was called I just told them I run a business couldn't be spared, I was exempted not sure anyone checked. I would have though if you wrote and said even if I believed someone was bang to rights guilty you would find it impossible to return a guilty verdict one may well be spared service.

They’ve tightened the rules up considerably in recent years.

In any event, your expectation that people will act in that way is misguided, based it seems on what @SWP's back posted. Most people would simply sit on a jury and acquit if they felt strongly enough. The notion that inveterate death penalty abolitionists would fess up, given the emotiveness of the subject, is a bit daft tbh.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Hopefully it will lead to improvement in vetting of perspective officers and existing one's and end the admitting of officers to fill numbers on quota sheets. Society that thinks of others hmmm I think that might be just before Kang and Kodos land.

Vetting is a costly and time consuming process. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be done though.

Thorough vetting includes social media habits, Internet use, financial background and anything that may be used as leverage or bribery against an individual.

Whilst vetting will weed out a lot of potential wrong uns it is not particularly good at picking up miscreants and/or deviants unless they have previous police/criminal record of such behaviour or close social links to others who participate in such activities.

 

[i kne albert davy]

I deal with plenty of coppers and most of them are sound.

Bit like the vast majority of people to be fair, the fact that this is so widely publicized show's just how rare this is. Unfortunately this has tainted the entire police force, this bloke was a wrong un and sadly used his position to further his perversion.

 

[i kne albert davy]

They’ve tightened the rules up considerably in recent years.

In any event, your expectation that people will act in that way is misguided, based it seems on what @SWP's back posted. Most people would simply sit on a jury and acquit if they felt strongly enough. The notion that inveterate death penalty abolitionists would fess up, given the emotiveness of the subject, is a bit daft tbh.

Possibly

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Bit like the vast majority of people to be fair, the fact that this is so widely publicized show's just how rare this is. Unfortunately this has tainted the entire police force, this bloke was a wrong un and sadly used his position to further his perversion.

I wouldn’t say it’s tainted the whole police force as far as I’m concerned, as much (as others have alluded to) as Shipman tainted the entire medical profession.

I find the whole vicarious shame thing a bit wanky tbh. Ordinary coppers have got nothing to be ashamed of in relation to Couzens imo.

 

[Mike N]

‘Wave down a bus’. What a messed up country we live in.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Unusually humorous from you, who have you recycled that from? :)

nicked it from a wheelie bin, actually. Hope you don't grass me up.

 

[hilts]

Beverley Allitt, a nurse, kills 4 children in her care. Do we say we can no longer trust any nurse?

Harold Shipman, a doctor, is convicted of murdering 15 of his patients and may have killed as many as 250 - the worst serial killer in modern history. Do we say we can no longer trust any doctor?

A police officer commits a terrible crime and the clamour of the media is that none of the nation’s 130,000 police officers can now be trusted.

Undoubtedly the Met missed opportunities to detect the lethal flaws in his character and there are questions about the failings in police leadership (and it almost always comes down to that) but the serving men and women on the front line of policing are by the great majority truly heroic individuals making exceptional personal sacrifices for their communities.

It destroys them to be constantly tarred with a brush they don’t deserve.

Who has said 130000 coppers can't be trusted? No one.

Vast majority are truly heroic? Really?

The irony of a post full of hyperbole complaining about hyperbole

 

[i kne albert davy]

I wouldn’t say it’s tainted the whole police force as far as I’m concerned, as much (as others have alluded to) as Shipman tainted the entire medical profession.

I find the whole vicarious shame thing a bit wanky tbh. Ordinary coppers have got nothing to be ashamed of in relation to Couzens imo.

As I travel to the games with serving and ex officers (we use to get free parking on Grey Mare Lane) it's not changed my opinion of them one bit I can tell good from bad, but it has given people with a bit of agenda the opportunity assisted by the media and internet to tar all with the same brush.