If you mean me you need to read betterA thread about a monster and his horrific crime has,for the usual suspects, become an opportunity to hate on the Police......99.9% of whom are incredible people,but,hey......lets not let that fact get in the way of a good berating- Pathetic.
As for the **** himself,hopefully proper justice is quickly served.
Credit for a guilty plea is an established principle at the court’s discretion, rather than anything arising out of statute, so it would have been up to the sentencing judge - so quite possibly not.I guess the severity of the crime along with mistrust of power made any other sentence impossible.
If, say, Huntley had pled guilty, would his sentence have been reduced?
Many have been questioning how Wayne Couzens was able to serve as a police officer despite numerous allegations against him.Surely, one or more of his colleagues at the police station must have had some concerns over the man's behaviour or attituded? Perhaps out of a misguided sense of loyalty he/she said nothing. If that is the case then I hope that person's conscience is troubling them.
Agreed. I wasn't advocating capital punishment.it's not punishment if he doesn't have to exist for as long as humanly possible. It's a mercy killing. All it is is vengeance, which is a different matter altogether.
It seems an interesting sentencing as they has to adapt the WLO regs a bit to allow the judge to apply it.Credit for a guilty plea is an established principle at the court’s discretion, rather than anything arising out of statute, so it would have been up to the sentencing judge - so quite possibly not.
The problem is that if the courts stop giving credit out for guilty pleas in serious offending then defendants will start saying fuck it, I may as well have my four weeks in court and put the victim’s family through even more torture.
It’s not strictly relevant as it is at the court’s discretion Whst credit to give (if any), but true remorse was the yardstick then only a small proportion of guilty pleas would end in a reduction in sentence!It seems an interesting sentencing as they has to adapt the WLO regs a bit to allow the judge to apply it.
“Notwithstanding your guilty pleas, therefore, I have seen no evidence of genuine contrition on your part, as opposed to evident self-pity and attempts by you to avoid or minimise the proper consequences of what you have done."
It seems the judge didn’t believe his contrition. Does that negate the guilty plea or is it irrelevant legally?
No kaz, did people stop going to see a gp after Shipman? Or stop going to hospital especially with a baby after the nurse Beverkey Allitt murdered 6 children ?
There was also the nurse in Stockport murdering patients plus several others recently.
The answer is no, why some on here are now over reacting by saying it is now not safe to stop when a policeman tells you I don't know.
It was one police officer, it is horrific and I hope he dies a slow death in jail but the over reaction is crazy
Well of course you should actually have to prove it.Many have been questioning how Wayne Couzens was able to serve as a police officer despite numerous allegations against him.
Former Met Police Chief Superintendent Parm Sandhu said it was likely he had made comments or displayed inappropriate behaviour at work but people were not in a position to report it.
"If colleagues were not strong or not able to report that, that's because the sexist attitudes still exist in policing and that's right across the country," she told Sky News.
"One of the problems that you've got is if a female in particular makes an allegation against a male officer, that allegation will follow her for the rest of her career.
"If she makes the allegation and then she has to press the emergency button for help at a later date, her team may not respond because teams tend to close ranks there."
She argued policing culture doesn't allow concerns to be brought to the fore because "as far as [senior managers] are concerned, as long as the team is working they're not really concerned about what they would deem to be petty issues".
"So unless you can actually prove it, unless you're willing to go to court, and damage your own career, it's a big step to do that because you will be the one who's isolated," she said