Save Our Ruben Interim

Alan Harper's Tash said:
Think it’s obvious that it doesn’t matter who manages their rabble. The dressing room doesn’t listen.

What Amorim is doing though is selling their potential game changers in his attempt to have players that will play in his structure.

Trouble is, he’d have to sell all of them to have a chance of that being a success.
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I think he is doomed. The images of him behaving like a gibbering wreck during the penalty shoot-out after abandoning his team finished him. He can't come back from that. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next week.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I think he is doomed. The images of him behaving like a gibbering wreck during the penalty shoot-out after abandoning his team finished him. He can't come back from that. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next week.
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It’d be fitting for him to be sacked for being superstitious rather than being utterly wank.
 
I think he's playing a blinder in his bid to get a big pay-off from Scruffy Jim & Co. All the signals he's putting out there are making it virtually impossible for them to keep him in the job. Pity really as I really like him for what he's done to that shower of shit. I thought that Tent Peg was the best we could get them to but this guy has exceeded our wildest dreams. Looking forward to our next campaign to keep a clueless manager at the helm. Come on Gareth, you know you want to :-)
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I think he is doomed. The images of him behaving like a gibbering wreck during the penalty shoot-out after abandoning his team finished him. He can't come back from that. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next week.
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The football world is laughing even harder at them (didn't think that was possible) and in particular Amorim. He broke last night and i don't see any way back for him.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I think he is doomed. The images of him behaving like a gibbering wreck during the penalty shoot-out after abandoning his team finished him. He can't come back from that. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next week.
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The great thing about United is that it doesn’t matter who their manager is.

Amorim, Rangnick, ten Hag, Mourinho, van Gaal…they were all managers doing very well at the top level of the sport before going to United and none of them could turn the ship around. Rangnick was a DOF but the job he did at Red Bull was objectively brilliant, competing with Bayern on 1/10th the budget.

Same with players, it doesn’t really matter how many great players they sign because they all get dragged down.

I genuinely think the only way to fix it is for them to give up on the idea they’re a temporarily down mega-club and just accept being Spursy for a bit. That’s what Arsenal did, and then as the pressure to win the title goes, things get less toxic and pressured, and you can actually rebuild gradually into being a contender without the players and managers being crucified for every loss.

Ratcliffe won’t accept that though, so they’re stuck in this cycle of new players/manager/owner bringing a slight pick up, then reaching new depths. And the slight pick up seems to get smaller each time.
 
Sounded last night he’s took them as far as he can, that’s another manager who hates corners.
 
Lose to Burnley and he has to be gone, shirley?
Think the players don’t like his ‘system’ whatever it fuckin is and have decided it.
 
Metal Biker said:
Nah, sack him, let him get his huge payout, plunging the scum deeper in debt and they can 'turn another corner' with a new manager, put him on a huge contract then sack him after 18 months.

Rinse and repeat until all the money is gone.
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They haven't got any money,it's all on the borrow ! No doubt they'll be allowed to sign Baleba as soon as possible, assuming he wants to join the self proclaimed " biggest club in the world"
 
domalino said:
The great thing about United is that it doesn’t matter who their manager is.

Amorim, Rangnick, ten Hag, Mourinho, van Gaal…they were all managers doing very well at the top level of the sport before going to United and none of them could turn the ship around.

Same with players, it doesn’t really matter how many great players they sign because they all get dragged down.

I genuinely think the only way to fix it is for them to give up on the idea they’re a temporarily down mega-club and just accept being Spursy for a bit. That’s what Arsenal did, and then as the pressure to win the title goes, things get less toxic and pressured, and you can actually rebuild gradually into being a contender without the players and managers being crucified for every loss.

Ratcliffe won’t accept that though, so they’re stuck in this cycle of new players/manager/owner bringing a slight pick up, then reaching new depths. And the slight pick up seems to get smaller each time.
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They look like they are in a death spiral like we were in 1982/83. Us City fans can recognise the signs. Their fans and followers in the media seem unable to grasp what they can see with their own eyes. Great to see.
 
He was done from the outset. The rags approached him mid-season, he tells them he will join after the season finishes, they tell him either come now or we look elsewhere, so he capitulated.

Any genuine coaching talent would have had the confidence to tell them either they accept his terms and wait, or they fuck off.

His response? "Well you can't say no when it's Man United". Spineless.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
They look like they are in a death spiral like we were in 1982/83. Us City fans can recognise the signs. Their fans and followers in the media seem unable to grasp what they can see with their own eyes. Great to see.
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Prior to the bank crisis of 2008 RBS were seen as far too big to fail. The same distress signals are being shown by the rags. Over indebted and their top brass answer is to do what they have always done borrow more and spend. I can't wait for their financial collapse!!
 
Brooklands Blue said:
Prior to the bank crisis of 2008 RBS were seen as far too big to fail. The same distress signals are being shown by the rags. Over indebted and their top brass answer is to do what they have always done borrow more and spend. I can't wait for their financial collapse!!
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They have at least £1bn in long-term debt. They have loaded a lot of that onto their Cayman Islands company but there is no evidence the Glazers have deep enough pockets to pay it all back. They are trying to raise another billion for the stadium plan but it is impossible to see how any Government would support that in the current climate. It can only be a PR stunt to preserve the share price. It is possible they have a buyer lined up in the wings but the Saudis are already in Newcastle and the geo-politics makes it impossible for the Chinese, who have invested hugely in Manchester in the past. Perhaps the Glazers (who have close ties to Trump) have a big US tech giant lined up but who knows? With no European football United must be in a major crisis.
 
mexico1970 said:
Looks and sounds like a man genuinely under pressure, the way he's acting is concerning TBF.

There is something under the floorboards at the swamp that's causing this, they've spent money, had manager after manager, cadging money for a stadium they can ill afford and now getting mocked from all angles.

For his own health he should leave them, that group of players he put out last night should not be struggling against opposition like Grimsby it's not the 70's or 80's and it's not a one off result they can just shrug their shoulders about.
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Agreed. Almost any other club and I'd feel really sorry for him. In fact I still feel a bit sorry for him, he seems a decent enough person, so he's best off out of that place, he isn't a good fit.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
It’d be fitting for him to be sacked for being superstitious rather than being utterly wank.
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Amorim's behaviour last night was one of the strangest things I have seem a Manager do. As a Leader he has to set an example to his players. It suggests strongly that he is incapable of dealing with the pressure of managing a big club in crucial matches (even the League Cup first round). Really he should be sacked on the spot.
 
mattcity5 said:
Agreed. Almost any other club and I'd feel really sorry for him. In fact I still feel a bit sorry for him, he seems a decent enough person, so he's best off out of that place, he isn't a good fit.
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He hasn't done anything to me like some of the rag cunts that have held sway at the swamp over the years.

What made me think was him playing with that strategy board seemingly lost somewhere it was maybe a chink in his armour that his vile bosses should be looking at.

He's a wealthy chap he should up sticks before that shocker of a place poisons him completely, what confirmed my opinion of what is happening to him was that absolutely mental interview.
 
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