Schalke post match thread

[Franny's toilet roll]

You can't refer yellow cards to VAR but even if they could it wouldn't have been overturned

You can refer any incident to VAR if it is considered to be match changing , and in this case a second bookable offence and therefore sending off could have been referred. It was a soft tackle compared to some of theirs and he had nothing to lose if it was referred but he didn't . VAR brings as many problems as it seeks to avoid

 

[stonerblue]

I'd have to watch it again, but it looked like Raz hit it early and found the gap between his arm and leg. Could be wrong.

You're right. I thought he was gonna take a touch to go around the keeper but he slotted it home first time.

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

Yeah I don't understand why he was overruled (if that is what happened). In the absence of a working screen for him to use, then it would appear that he should have stuck to his original decision. Have UEFA released a statement on that yet?

As you say, I have no issue with the final decision because I said I thought it was a penalty straight away, but I am not sure I am comfortable with the process of arriving at that decision having later brushed up on the rules of VAR.

Two thoughts...

1) Under UEFA rules - is it actually possible for the on-field ref to be overruled by VAR? I actually don't know. Your commentary about "absence of a screen" is wholly irrelevant if the onield has no say in the final decision;

2) For me, it's a clear-cut penalty given the way that the game is actually officiated. I do not for a second believe that Otters hand ball was intentional - but the way that the game is actually called - regardless of the rules - penalty.

The rules of the game need to change - first up - any rule requiring that a ref needs to judge intent needs to go - who knows what a player intends?

Secondly - if we're to adopt VAR - and we're in favor of a fast-paced game without undue delay - then... the VAR booth should have the final say - if it goes to VAR and they disagree with the onfield ref - then that's it.

 

[blue61]

You can refer any incident to VAR if it is considered to be match changing , and in this case a second bookable offence and therefore sending off could have been referred. It was a soft tackle compared to some of theirs and he had nothing to lose if it was referred but he didn't . VAR brings as many problems as it seeks to avoid

This is taken from the rule book.....The VAR will only intervene if he thinks the referee has missed a direct red card offence, not a yellow or second yellow. However, there are three instances when the VAR can advise a referee to issue a caution. 1) If, on reviewing a penalty it turns out there is simulation. 2) If, on reviewing an awarded goal, it turns out a player has deliberately handled the ball to score. 3) If, in dismissing a player, it is proved they have been provoked into retaliating, the player who initiated the incident could get booked.

 

[purplenose]

I am certainly not a fucking Rag, but I was thrown off the WC thread for taking the piss, or as I called it, being fucking truthful about England’s overall performance. I was of course right. Anyway, I like being a wee bit oppressed, I’m Scottish. I won’t lose sleep, but the threads will lose my brilliant footballing mind. :)

I am afraid you are going to have to expect that soon England will win tournaments, whilst Scotland will lock horns with the likes of Estonia in the International footballing equivalent of conference north.

Look its not all bad I am sure you are still better than us at Curling.

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

Amazing win, whoever spotted Ederson deserves a villa from shiekh as pay raise is old school.

VAR is something that the game needs but it feels sometimes as if it has been implemented in a rush. Last night was an embarrassment for UEFA, they should ensure proper mechanism for it and every ground should have the adequate facilities before hand.

Hopefully, when PL introduces it next season, they would address these issues. May be they should have a 3rd umpire like system like how it is in cricket where 3rd umpire has all the decision making power and refs don't have to go and look up on the screens.

 

[The perfect fumble]

I am afraid you are going to have to expect that soon England will win tournaments

LOL!

Yeah, coz the last time we won summat I watched it in black and white.

 

[purplenose]

LOL!

Yeah, coz the last time we won summat I watched it in black and white.

The time is coming.

 

[Magicpole]

I am afraid you are going to have to expect that soon England will win tournaments, whilst Scotland will lock horns with the likes of Estonia in the International footballing equivalent of conference north.

Look its not all bad I am sure you are still better than us at Curling.

I will bet you a ton you don’t win a tournament in the next ten years. We will get slightly better but never be a contender. Qualifying is beyond us ffs! And yes, we are Fucking brilliant at Curling.

 

[purplenose]

I will bet you a ton you don’t win a tournament in the next ten years. We will get slightly better but never be a contender. Qualifying is beyond us ffs! And yes, we are Fucking brilliant at Curling.

I will take that bet if it includes the European nations League?