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Take it easy mate. The "What a pile of shit" rhetoric means that you're not receptive to debate and that you are simply voicing an emotional bias - regardless of the truth of the matter.
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With regard to the Otters handball - I'd call that a penalty - not by the rules of the game as they are in the book- but rather on president - that sort of handball, deliberate or not, is usually called. What needs to happen is that either the rules of the game need to be updated (I don't favor this as refs would then be left having to judge what the intent of the player committing the handball was - deliberate? - accidental? - who knows? - with language such as arm in an unnatural position - arm contacting a ball heading towards goal... and so forth).
On the 2nd penalty - I don't honestly know what takes presidence - offsides or the foul. An offside player not attempting to interfere with play isn't called offside - moreover, should a defender contact the ball, such player is then onside. Posters on this forum with more knowledge of the game than I have are satisfied that Fernadinho did commit a penalty regardless of the offside rule.
I'm OK with that.
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The only area of referring that I strongly disagree with is Otters 2nd yellow - yes, it's a foul, yes it's a yellow - but it's a very harsh 2nd yellow - often players committing a soft foul like this without breaking up play and without endangering the opponent are simply warned.
They were using BAA.Newport...!!!!
You are embarrassing in the match threads,give your head a wobble ffsStick your vitreous comments upmyour arse you vile creature.
I'll be honest i was a tad worried. Was going to get a room at the Marriott but was fully booked.Christ on a bike! Glad you got back safe.
He makes a fist, stop talking Bollocks, it was a split second to move his arm, all 3 ex pros on BT saying no penalty, you quite clearly have never kicked a ball in your life as you would know that wasn't handball.I think Otamendi has enough time to react and the ball is heading into the corner. He makes a fist and diverts the ball. If that was reversed I'd absolutely want a penalty.
My issue is how VAR was used tonight. How can the ref not have a monitor but the Schalke bench have?
That's one opinion.1st pen. Is cheating. There's a clear UEFA directive that states the on-field referee *MUST* give the decision. He didn't. He's not applied the rules.
2nd pen. Two players offside, including Sané who's fouled. Foul by the ref was the correct call, on review the laws state it must be over turned. VAR by all accounts didn't consider looking for the offside.
That's either two very poor mistakes & misuse of VAR or something more sinister.
During the game, about 3 minutes into the 4 minute VAR consultation, BT went to PW for his 'expert opinion'.
At this point despite having seen the incident at least half a dozen times from varying angles, he wouldn't give a definitive answer. He used the word 'could' [be given] three times in about 30 seconds.
Post match he was absolutely certain that it was a penalty.
Been given his instructions by that time.During the game, about 3 minutes into the 4 minute VAR consultation, BT went to PW for his 'expert opinion'.
At this point despite having seen the incident at least half a dozen times from varying angles, he wouldn't give a definitive answer. He used the word 'could' [be given] three times in about 30 seconds.
Post match he was absolutely certain that it was a penalty.
That's an excellent point I wish I has made last night.
From what I gather, next season, the penalty would stand and be unequivocal and Bony's would be ruled out under the coming IFAB guidelines on "accidental handball effecting goals/goal bound shots".