Scotland Independance Referendum

[depps]

They'll end up going the same way as Ireland.

By that do you mean having a higher GDP per capita than the UK, ranking 20 places higher than the UK on the UN's human development index etc?

I'm pretty sure that most pro-independence Scots want to end up going the same way as Ireland... That's kind of the point of the whole thing

Always look on the bright side.

Ireland is financially melting isn't it?

Massive unemployment and all the Horses have left.

Aye, we have gone through a bit of a bad patch in the past few years but the average Irish person is still better off than their counterpart in the UK.

I don't mean this as a pissing contest between Ireland and the UK... Just pointing out that going the same way as Ireland is what the SNP want, rather than some kind of threat to be made to pro independence Scots. From an Irish perspective Scottish independence would probably be bad for us because they would be competing for a lot of the same investment

 

[TGR]

Here is a copy of the leaked plans of the SNP to rename parts of Scotland to reflect the new situation should Scotland
become an independent country.

It is intended that copies of the new map will not be available until after a 'yes' vote in the referendum.
New maps, only £1 - oh, maybe not a £, possibly a euro, a Scroat or the Caledonian lira ....?

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Have Russia invaded yet?

 

[sd92]

After reading a few posts on this thread I feel absolutely astounded at the responses.

Firstly, I find it utterly deplorable and laughable the amount of sheer ignorance toward the facts here.
Some saying we would not be able to afford it cause we benefit from being in the union. My my. We pay more in taxes than you do per person. We put into the uk system more than we recieve back.
The thing is, I don't expect any of you who have said these things to realise the magnitude of what you're saying. I don't expect that you's have done any research.

Scotland has a fantastic opportunity to go it alone. There was one more level headed poster that commented on you guys being under more tory rule if we left.
Did you know if you took our, the Scottish vote, out of the last 18 UK elections, 4 would have changed. That's right. Four. Out of eighteen. Generally we do not get who we vote for.

We are in a fantastic place to project ourselves right now. We want to take our oil money and put it in a big pot and keep it for a rainy day. A certain mr darling said it would be downright selfish of us to keep the oil money.
How to express what a whole campaign is all about in one sentence.

We have the chance to go it ourselves. Everyone of the financial experts reckon we can do it. Hell, even the leader of BT says we can.

I invite you guys to look farrrrr beyond what the MSM is saying to us. And you guys. Go Into it in more depth.

We can rid ourselves of the 4th most unequal developed country in the world, we can rid ourselves of the levels of poverty, we can rid ourselves of the privatisation of massive national companies, Royal Mail anyone? Parts of the NHS anyone? We can rid ourselves of Tory rule. We can rid ourselves of education fees.

You ask yourselves this, if you could fund yourselves whilst saving more than £200BN for a rainy day and be part of a prosperous country would you not take it? Sure there are risks. Of course there are, but there is south potential in this small country.

Vote yes in September, all the guys in Scotland. Do the right thing.

 

[Balti]

After reading a few posts on this thread I feel absolutely astounded at the responses.

Firstly, I find it utterly deplorable and laughable the amount of sheer ignorance toward the facts here.
Some saying we would not be able to afford it cause we benefit from being in the union. My my. We pay more in taxes than you do per person. We put into the uk system more than we recieve back.
The thing is, I don't expect any of you who have said these things to realise the magnitude of what you're saying. I don't expect that you's have done any research.

Scotland has a fantastic opportunity to go it alone. There was one more level headed poster that commented on you guys being under more tory rule if we left.
Did you know if you took our, the Scottish vote, out of the last 18 UK elections, 4 would have changed. That's right. Four. Out of eighteen. Generally we do not get who we vote for.

We are in a fantastic place to project ourselves right now. We want to take our oil money and put it in a big pot and keep it for a rainy day. A certain mr darling said it would be downright selfish of us to keep the oil money.
How to express what a whole campaign is all about in one sentence.

We have the chance to go it ourselves. Everyone of the financial experts reckon we can do it. Hell, even the leader of BT says we can.

I invite you guys to look farrrrr beyond what the MSM is saying to us. And you guys. Go Into it in more depth.

We can rid ourselves of the 4th most unequal developed country in the world, we can rid ourselves of the levels of poverty, we can rid ourselves of the privatisation of massive national companies, Royal Mail anyone? Parts of the NHS anyone? We can rid ourselves of Tory rule. We can rid ourselves of education fees.

You ask yourselves this, if you could fund yourselves whilst saving more than £200BN for a rainy day and be part of a prosperous country would you not take it? Sure there are risks. Of course there are, but there is south potential in this small country.

Vote yes in September, all the guys in Scotland. Do the right thing.

Wow.

Fair enough fuck off then.

Just don't expect us to support your decision in any way whatsoever.

You will be a foreign country and we will treat you like one.

Bye.

 

[dazdon]

After reading a few posts on this thread I feel absolutely astounded at the responses.

Firstly, I find it utterly deplorable and laughable the amount of sheer ignorance toward the facts here.
Some saying we would not be able to afford it cause we benefit from being in the union. My my. We pay more in taxes than you do per person. We put into the uk system more than we recieve back.
The thing is, I don't expect any of you who have said these things to realise the magnitude of what you're saying. I don't expect that you's have done any research.

Scotland has a fantastic opportunity to go it alone. There was one more level headed poster that commented on you guys being under more tory rule if we left.
Did you know if you took our, the Scottish vote, out of the last 18 UK elections, 4 would have changed. That's right. Four. Out of eighteen. Generally we do not get who we vote for.

We are in a fantastic place to project ourselves right now. We want to take our oil money and put it in a big pot and keep it for a rainy day. A certain mr darling said it would be downright selfish of us to keep the oil money.
How to express what a whole campaign is all about in one sentence.

We have the chance to go it ourselves. Everyone of the financial experts reckon we can do it. Hell, even the leader of BT says we can.

I invite you guys to look farrrrr beyond what the MSM is saying to us. And you guys. Go Into it in more depth.

We can rid ourselves of the 4th most unequal developed country in the world, we can rid ourselves of the levels of poverty, we can rid ourselves of the privatisation of massive national companies, Royal Mail anyone? Parts of the NHS anyone? We can rid ourselves of Tory rule. We can rid ourselves of education fees.

You ask yourselves this, if you could fund yourselves whilst saving more than £200BN for a rainy day and be part of a prosperous country would you not take it? Sure there are risks. Of course there are, but there is south potential in this small country.

Vote yes in September, all the guys in Scotland. Do the right thing.

Wow.

Fair enough fuck off then.

Just don't expect us to support your decision in any way whatsoever.

You will be a foreign country and we will treat you like one.

Bye.

I think he's not going to get his way it's going to be a no decision.

But he probably knows that but still wanted a Braveheart moment before Scotland is yet again consigned to be just another region of Britain ;-)

 

[Bodicoteblue]

How are you you going to attract inward investment ?
You are not going to get membership of the EU ( you will be vetoed by Spain for one because they don't want to see Catalans and Basques getting recognised if they try to go independent , with a precedent set by Scotland)
If you are not in the EU , why would any multinational invest in Scotland , when border controls and trade tariffs would cost them money , which would not be necessary with an EU member.
The global economic powers that provide jobs and prosperity , want free trade and unrestricted access to European markets , an isolated Scotland, and the same for England ( those who would support UKIP should think on) would hinder those objectives and the Americans , Chinese , Japanese , and European companies would simply up sticks and move to countries who are part of a huge integrated trading block , with all the benefits that go with it.

 

[stony]

After reading a few posts on this thread I feel absolutely astounded at the responses.

Firstly, I find it utterly deplorable and laughable the amount of sheer ignorance toward the facts here.
Some saying we would not be able to afford it cause we benefit from being in the union. My my. We pay more in taxes than you do per person. We put into the uk system more than we recieve back.
The thing is, I don't expect any of you who have said these things to realise the magnitude of what you're saying. I don't expect that you's have done any research.

Scotland has a fantastic opportunity to go it alone. There was one more level headed poster that commented on you guys being under more tory rule if we left.
Did you know if you took our, the Scottish vote, out of the last 18 UK elections, 4 would have changed. That's right. Four. Out of eighteen. Generally we do not get who we vote for.

We are in a fantastic place to project ourselves right now. We want to take our oil money and put it in a big pot and keep it for a rainy day. A certain mr darling said it would be downright selfish of us to keep the oil money.
How to express what a whole campaign is all about in one sentence.

We have the chance to go it ourselves. Everyone of the financial experts reckon we can do it. Hell, even the leader of BT says we can.

I invite you guys to look farrrrr beyond what the MSM is saying to us. And you guys. Go Into it in more depth.

We can rid ourselves of the 4th most unequal developed country in the world, we can rid ourselves of the levels of poverty, we can rid ourselves of the privatisation of massive national companies, Royal Mail anyone? Parts of the NHS anyone? We can rid ourselves of Tory rule. We can rid ourselves of education fees.

You ask yourselves this, if you could fund yourselves whilst saving more than £200BN for a rainy day and be part of a prosperous country would you not take it? Sure there are risks. Of course there are, but there is south potential in this small country.

Vote yes in September, all the guys in Scotland. Do the right thing.

You question the reasoning of people who have argued against the break up of the union, but in response all you can muster is a rambling reply based entirely on emotion and Scottish pride. You sound like just the sort of jingoistic idiot that the SNP are counting on.<br /><br />-- Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:15 am --<br /><br />

But he probably knows that but still wanted a Braveheart moment before Scotland is yet again consigned to be just another region of Britain ;-)

William Wallace(Braveheart) their national hero was a paedophile. Not just a paedophile, but the worst sort of paedophile, a Scottish paedophile. Coming at you from a bothy, with shortbread on his face, muttering in an incomprehensible dialect.

 

[sd92]

After reading a few posts on this thread I feel absolutely astounded at the responses.

Firstly, I find it utterly deplorable and laughable the amount of sheer ignorance toward the facts here.
Some saying we would not be able to afford it cause we benefit from being in the union. My my. We pay more in taxes than you do per person. We put into the uk system more than we recieve back.
The thing is, I don't expect any of you who have said these things to realise the magnitude of what you're saying. I don't expect that you's have done any research.

Scotland has a fantastic opportunity to go it alone. There was one more level headed poster that commented on you guys being under more tory rule if we left.
Did you know if you took our, the Scottish vote, out of the last 18 UK elections, 4 would have changed. That's right. Four. Out of eighteen. Generally we do not get who we vote for.

We are in a fantastic place to project ourselves right now. We want to take our oil money and put it in a big pot and keep it for a rainy day. A certain mr darling said it would be downright selfish of us to keep the oil money.
How to express what a whole campaign is all about in one sentence.

We have the chance to go it ourselves. Everyone of the financial experts reckon we can do it. Hell, even the leader of BT says we can.

I invite you guys to look farrrrr beyond what the MSM is saying to us. And you guys. Go Into it in more depth.

We can rid ourselves of the 4th most unequal developed country in the world, we can rid ourselves of the levels of poverty, we can rid ourselves of the privatisation of massive national companies, Royal Mail anyone? Parts of the NHS anyone? We can rid ourselves of Tory rule. We can rid ourselves of education fees.

You ask yourselves this, if you could fund yourselves whilst saving more than £200BN for a rainy day and be part of a prosperous country would you not take it? Sure there are risks. Of course there are, but there is south potential in this small country.

Vote yes in September, all the guys in Scotland. Do the right thing.

Wow.

Fair enough fuck off then.

Just don't expect us to support your decision in any way whatsoever.

You will be a foreign country and we will treat you like one.

Bye.

We get zero support from the rUK anyway. Nothing changes there

 

[sd92]

After reading a few posts on this thread I feel absolutely astounded at the responses.

Firstly, I find it utterly deplorable and laughable the amount of sheer ignorance toward the facts here.
Some saying we would not be able to afford it cause we benefit from being in the union. My my. We pay more in taxes than you do per person. We put into the uk system more than we recieve back.
The thing is, I don't expect any of you who have said these things to realise the magnitude of what you're saying. I don't expect that you's have done any research.

Scotland has a fantastic opportunity to go it alone. There was one more level headed poster that commented on you guys being under more tory rule if we left.
Did you know if you took our, the Scottish vote, out of the last 18 UK elections, 4 would have changed. That's right. Four. Out of eighteen. Generally we do not get who we vote for.

We are in a fantastic place to project ourselves right now. We want to take our oil money and put it in a big pot and keep it for a rainy day. A certain mr darling said it would be downright selfish of us to keep the oil money.
How to express what a whole campaign is all about in one sentence.

We have the chance to go it ourselves. Everyone of the financial experts reckon we can do it. Hell, even the leader of BT says we can.

I invite you guys to look farrrrr beyond what the MSM is saying to us. And you guys. Go Into it in more depth.

We can rid ourselves of the 4th most unequal developed country in the world, we can rid ourselves of the levels of poverty, we can rid ourselves of the privatisation of massive national companies, Royal Mail anyone? Parts of the NHS anyone? We can rid ourselves of Tory rule. We can rid ourselves of education fees.

You ask yourselves this, if you could fund yourselves whilst saving more than £200BN for a rainy day and be part of a prosperous country would you not take it? Sure there are risks. Of course there are, but there is south potential in this small country.

Vote yes in September, all the guys in Scotland. Do the right thing.

Wow.

Fair enough fuck off then.

Just don't expect us to support your decision in any way whatsoever.

You will be a foreign country and we will treat you like one.

Bye.

I think he's not going to get his way it's going to be a no decision.

But he probably knows that but still wanted a Braveheart moment before Scotland is yet again consigned to be just another region of Britain ;-)

The polls are turning quite quickly. Not sure if they're turning quite fast enough.

If you think it's a braveheart moment fair enough. It's not