Scott Sinclair

[Damocles]

I can only laugh at the people that don't see what Navas brings to the team.

Come on then Rinus, please inform all of us inferior scrubs to what exactly Navas is bringing to us.

More assists than most of our other players? Constant dangerous balls pulled back along the ground for ours strikers? Also wins us a ridiculous amount of corners, it's not his fault we do fuck all with them. Nowt wrong with his assist for Sergio against Liverpool either. Just because someone is quick, it doesn't mean they should just sprint aimlessly down the line all game

Can we just clarify this assist thing?

He has one for Aguero against Liverpool and one for Aguero against Arsenal. No problems with them, in fact the Arsenal one is something that he should do doing every match and I'd never have a bad word to say about him.

Do you know what his third and final assist was? He gave the ball to Silva yesterday before he jinked past a couple of players and performed a world class finish.

If you look at City's creative players, he's behind both Milner and Silva and per minute is behind Nasri. He's our least creative wide player.

The thing he was touted to bring to our team was much more width than we had than previously, a player who could beat his man then stick in a cross for Dzeko to get on the end of. This was meant to be the key that unlocked potential in our team.

Considering we're using stats, let's have a look at the amount of times he successfully takes on a player. He's managed 10 this year. Adam Johnson has done 14. The league leader is Hazard with 41. Even Rafael has 7.

We've got a winger who doesn't like to beat his man, which is specifically the reason why he was brought into the team.

I'm not saying that he's a crap player or that he is the worst winger in the world. I'm saying that he isn't actually doing anything that Silva, Nasri or Milner isn't. Milner has his versatility and workrate. Silva has his passing ability and his vision. Nasri has his shooting ability and his creativity. Navas is second best in everything that he does in our team. I don't see the point of him. He's the John O'Shea of our wide players.

 

[BigOscar]

Come on then Rinus, please inform all of us inferior scrubs to what exactly Navas is bringing to us.

More assists than most of our other players? Constant dangerous balls pulled back along the ground for ours strikers? Also wins us a ridiculous amount of corners, it's not his fault we do fuck all with them. Nowt wrong with his assist for Sergio against Liverpool either. Just because someone is quick, it doesn't mean they should just sprint aimlessly down the line all game

Can we just clarify this assist thing?

He has one for Aguero against Liverpool and one for Aguero against Arsenal. No problems with them, in fact the Arsenal one is something that he should do doing every match and I'd never have a bad word to say about him.

Do you know what his third and final assist was? He gave the ball to Silva yesterday before he jinked past a couple of players and performed a world class finish.

If you look at City's creative players, he's behind both Milner and Silva and per minute is behind Nasri. He's our least creative wide player.

The thing he was touted to bring to our team was much more width than we had than previously, a player who could beat his man then stick in a cross for Dzeko to get on the end of. This was meant to be the key that unlocked potential in our team.

Considering we're using stats, let's have a look at the amount of times he successfully takes on a player. He's managed 10 this year. Adam Johnson has done 14. The league leader is Hazard with 41. Even Rafael has 7.

We've got a winger who doesn't like to beat his man, which is specifically the reason why he was brought into the team.

I'm not saying that he's a crap player or that he is the worst winger in the world. I'm saying that he isn't actually doing anything that Silva, Nasri or Milner isn't. Milner has his versatility and workrate. Silva has his passing ability and his vision. Nasri has his shooting ability and his creativity. Navas is second best in everything that he does in our team. I don't see the point of him. He's the John O'Shea of our wide players.

Is it? I don't remember that press release, are you sure you aren't just assuming that's what he's for because he's quick?

For me, he's by far the most likely of our players to just move the ball a few yards and drill it across the box for someone to tap in (like the Sergio miss yesterday). He does it all the time, he doesn't have to beat multiple men or run 80 yards, he picks it up on the edge of the box and runs 4 or 5 yards before pulling it back along the ground.

If you are watching him expecting him to play like Hazard, then you will be dissapointed as he's not remotely that sort of player. Of his sort of winger, there is probably only Eduardo Salvio at Benfica who I'd rather have (mainly as he's a lot more direct and strong). Whether we need that sort of winger, or would be better off with a winger who cuts inside and takes a lot of risks is a different matter.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Come on then Rinus, please inform all of us inferior scrubs to what exactly Navas is bringing to us.

More assists than most of our other players? Constant dangerous balls pulled back along the ground for ours strikers? Also wins us a ridiculous amount of corners, it's not his fault we do fuck all with them. Nowt wrong with his assist for Sergio against Liverpool either. Just because someone is quick, it doesn't mean they should just sprint aimlessly down the line all game

Can we just clarify this assist thing?

He has one for Aguero against Liverpool and one for Aguero against Arsenal. No problems with them, in fact the Arsenal one is something that he should do doing every match and I'd never have a bad word to say about him.

Do you know what his third and final assist was? He gave the ball to Silva yesterday before he jinked past a couple of players and performed a world class finish.

If you look at City's creative players, he's behind both Milner and Silva and per minute is behind Nasri. He's our least creative wide player.

The thing he was touted to bring to our team was much more width than we had than previously, a player who could beat his man then stick in a cross for Dzeko to get on the end of. This was meant to be the key that unlocked potential in our team.

Considering we're using stats, let's have a look at the amount of times he successfully takes on a player. He's managed 10 this year. Adam Johnson has done 14. The league leader is Hazard with 41. Even Rafael has 7.

We've got a winger who doesn't like to beat his man, which is specifically the reason why he was brought into the team.

I'm not saying that he's a crap player or that he is the worst winger in the world. I'm saying that he isn't actually doing anything that Silva, Nasri or Milner isn't. Milner has his versatility and workrate. Silva has his passing ability and his vision. Nasri has his shooting ability and his creativity. Navas is second best in everything that he does in our team. I don't see the point of him. He's the John O'Shea of our wide players.

Navas has never been that kind of a winger. You're just assuming because that because he is winger and quick. If you honestly are expecting that, then you can wait for that from him. He will hardly provide that for you (dribbling past defences or beating defenders like Hazard). Again, he is not that type of player.

 

[Rodney]

He dithers, dithers some more and then takes the wrong option. He drives me mad.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Fuck no. This Navas bashing is getting ridiculous. Scott Sinclair ffs, he'd be lucky to get a start for the EDS

Why ridiculous ? Navas has done very little to justify a position on the bench, not suggesting Scott Sinclair is the answer but maybe one of the EDS lads needs a chance. Navas has never terrorised any defender and his crossing hits the first man much of the time.

Very little? Six goals and 13 assists last season. This season 1 goal and 4 assists in 7 appearances! You haven't got a clue have you.

If that is not good enough for squad player, then I don't know what is. He is not a KEY player, he is SQUAD player. Those thats from squad player is excellent I would say. Very good player to have to come off the bench in matches.

Wasn't his goal and 2 or 3 of those assists against Wednesday?

 

[Damocles]

Navas has never been that kind of a winger. You're just assuming because that because he is winger and quick. If you honestly are expecting that, then you can wait for that from him. He will hardly provide that for you (dribbling past defences or beating defenders like Hazard). Again, he is not that type of player.

Any attacking player in our squad that "isn't the type of player who beats defenders" needs to be immediately sold. It's in the job description of an attacker and none of the others seem to require the defence that they aren't the type of player.

So Jesus Navas is one of those quick and pacey wide wingers who doesn't like to beat his man thus has no space in front of him to utilise said pace and width? He's one of those great type of players who are able to actually defend against themselves instead of getting the opposition to do it.

So tell me again, if we didn't buy him to utilise his width and pace, what exactly is the point of him? You think we bought him due to his possession retaining ability? His goal scoring potential? His ability to cut inside? Because he's crap at them aswell.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Navas has never been that kind of a winger. You're just assuming because that because he is winger and quick. If you honestly are expecting that, then you can wait for that from him. He will hardly provide that for you (dribbling past defences or beating defenders like Hazard). Again, he is not that type of player.

Any attacking player in our squad that "isn't the type of player who beats defenders" needs to be immediately sold. It's in the job description of an attacker and none of the others seem to require the defence that they aren't the type of player.

So Jesus Navas is one of those quick and pacey wide wingers who doesn't like to beat his man thus has no space in front of him to utilise said pace and width? He's one of those great type of players who are able to actually defend against themselves instead of getting the opposition to do it.

So tell me again, if we didn't buy him to utilise his width and pace, what exactly is the point of him? You think we bought him due to his possession retaining ability? His goal scoring potential? His ability to cut inside? Because he's crap at them aswell.

Don't ask me, I am not Director of Football. I just mentioned that he is not the type of winger that you probably expected. Possibly the intention was to use his width he could provide.

If he would beat defenders regularly like Hazard or some one else (and scoring goals), you can bet he would have cost more than just £14 million. Squad player, nothing else.

 

[Damocles]

For me, he's by far the most likely of our players to just move the ball a few yards and drill it across the box for someone to tap in (like the Sergio miss yesterday). He does it all the time, he doesn't have to beat multiple men or run 80 yards, he picks it up on the edge of the box and runs 4 or 5 yards before pulling it back along the ground.

His crossing accuracy is behind Robert Snodgrass for last year. Way behind Silva and Nasri.

So your point seems to be that the whole idea of Navas is to consistently twat the ball into the box with about a 1 in 5 chance of finding a City player?

Shit, we could give de niro a shirt and he could do that

 

[Barcon]

I can only laugh at the people that don't see what Navas brings to the team.

Well laugh at me all you want.

I see a player who is frightened of full backs, couldn't beat an egg and slows up every attack he takes part in.

Course if that's what you meant that he brings then I take it back

Probably a bad choice of words by me, I don't really laugh at any Blues to be honest.

I'm obviously seeing something in him that you're not. I know that he sometimes plays the ball backwards and can slow down the play (so does the rest of the team), but he does get down to the byline, and he does get crosses in.
He also attracts the attention of defenders, allowing space to open up for other players. And he wins us a lot of corners, unfortunately we don't usually do much with them.
I think he had a decent season last year and I expect him to have a decent season this year.

 

[NipHolmes]

He's a parasitic leech who's only interestes in money rather than pursuing greatness.

He is polar opposite to Milner for instance, James isn't a gifted talent like a Nasri or Silva but ges determined and put the hard yards in to make up for his attribute deficit. Meanwhile Sinclair is happy to vegetate at our club and cash in his wage cheques.

We bought the wrong Swansea winger, I said at the time we should've gone for Dyer, how right I was ;)

Fingers crossed he's sold to a desperate QPR in Jan