Scottish independence

Gabriel said:
ell said:
Cant agree with giving 16year olds the vote at all, I know when I was that age me and my mates were definitely not in the position to make such an important decision.

A masterstroke by Salmond

Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.
Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Gabriel said:
ell said:
Cant agree with giving 16year olds the vote at all, I know when I was that age me and my mates were definitely not in the position to make such an important decision.

A masterstroke by Salmond

Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.
Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?
He may be referring to the fact that between the ages of 16-18 in Scotland you don't need parental consent to marry whereas in England and Wales you do.
 
Len Rum said:
Mëtal Bikër said:
Gabriel said:
Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.
Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?
He may be referring to the fact that between the ages of 16-18 in Scotland you don't need parental consent to marry whereas in England and Wales you do.
And that's enough of a justification to allow 16 year olds to determine the fate of future generations of an entire nation?
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Len Rum said:
Mëtal Bikër said:
Gabriel said:
Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.
Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?
He may be referring to the fact that between the ages of 16-18 in Scotland you don't need parental consent to marry whereas in England and Wales you do.
Even so, it hardly marks Scotland out as a "very, very different country".
 
the anti-Scottish tone of the posters on BM who insist that a yes vote will mean disaster for Scotland and England is puzzling. The mention of the Labour party taking a big hit is greeted with a resounding meh, yet it is the only certain outcome of a yes vote, so unless the tory supporters are acting in a very noble manner and putting self-interest behind a genuine concern for the people of Scotland ( ha ha) , what is their real beef? There isn't a tory party in Scotland ffs. If Scotland is a burden, as is claimed, then getting rid must be a ''good thing'' right. Weakening Labour
must be a good thing, right? What is so fearsome that Cameron ''pleads'' for a no vote, promises to make up for
the years of neglect, extra powers for Scottish Parliament and all manner of bribes. It may be ego-driven or fear of the old tin tack in his case, but that certainly does not apply to the rank and file on BM.
What is the real reason that so provokes tory supporters to such apoplectic rage? And why is it not their battle-cry, instead of meaningless shite like ''Better together''
 
bellbuzzer said:
the anti-Scottish tone of the posters on BM who insist that a yes vote will mean disaster for Scotland and England is puzzling. The mention of the Labour party taking a big hit is greeted with a resounding meh, yet it is the only certain outcome of a yes vote, so unless the tory supporters are acting in a very noble manner and putting self-interest behind a genuine concern for the people of Scotland ( ha ha) , what is their real beef? There isn't a tory party in Scotland ffs. If Scotland is a burden, as is claimed, then getting rid must be a ''good thing'' right. Weakening Labour
must be a good thing, right? What is so fearsome that Cameron ''pleads'' for a no vote, promises to make up for
the years of neglect, extra powers for Scottish Parliament and all manner of bribes. It may be ego-driven or fear of the old tin tack in his case, but that certainly does not apply to the rank and file on BM.
What is the real reason that so provokes tory supporters to such apoplectic rage? And why is it not their battle-cry, instead of meaningless shite like ''Better together''
Ahh so you can only be a Tory voter to be against the break up of the Union.

I have a more modest suggestion as to why i'm against it...

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Just been to cast my vote. Never been to a polling day with so much activity and buzz around it, it's interesting I'll give it that.
 
bellbuzzer said:
the anti-Scottish tone of the posters on BM who insist that a yes vote will mean disaster for Scotland and England is puzzling. The mention of the Labour party taking a big hit is greeted with a resounding meh, yet it is the only certain outcome of a yes vote, so unless the tory supporters are acting in a very noble manner and putting self-interest behind a genuine concern for the people of Scotland ( ha ha) , what is their real beef? There isn't a tory party in Scotland ffs. If Scotland is a burden, as is claimed, then getting rid must be a ''good thing'' right. Weakening Labour
must be a good thing, right? What is so fearsome that Cameron ''pleads'' for a no vote, promises to make up for
the years of neglect, extra powers for Scottish Parliament and all manner of bribes. It may be ego-driven or fear of the old tin tack in his case, but that certainly does not apply to the rank and file on BM.
What is the real reason that so provokes tory supporters to such apoplectic rage? And why is it not their battle-cry, instead of meaningless shite like ''Better together''

That's funny, because I could've sworn that people of all political persuasions have been posting on here that they think a Yes vote could be bad for Scotland. It's not just limited to Conservative voters - fuck me, even Rascal who is as anti-Tory as you can get reckons it would be a wrong move.

As for the "anti-Scottish tone", behave ffs. Most of it is just light-hearted banter being taken far too seriously you porridge-gobbling twat ;) Seriously, what's way more disturbing are the reports of some Yes campaigners resorting to intimidatory tactics against the No voters and coming up with totally bullshit claims that anyone voting No isn't as patriotic as someone voting Yes.
 

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