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Orkney votes NO
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Benarbia_is_god
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Clackmannanshire is the most Scottish sounding name in the world. Alex Salmond already throwing his toys out of the pram, cancelled his appearance at Aberdeen tonight.
JoeMercer'sWay
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Western Isles votes no, against expectations.
Time for the United regions of the Kingdom of Britain and NI.
Time for the United regions of the Kingdom of Britain and NI.
DavidSilvasLeftFoot
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If they vote No then big changes will need to be made. The fact that up to 2 million people would vote to leave the Union says how bad things are. We need further devolution. Either that of millions of bitter Scots from here onward.
DavidSilvasLeftFoot said:If they vote No then big changes will need to be made. The fact that up to 2 million people would vote to leave the Union says how bad things are. We need further devolution. Either that of millions of bitter Scots from here onward.
They have to be careful though because if they give the Scots too much then people in England and Wales and NI will complain that they are getting more than their fair share and the whole thing will just kick off.
DavidSilvasLeftFoot said:If they vote No then big changes will need to be made. The fact that up to 2 million people would vote to leave the Union says how bad things are. We need further devolution.
No, we need a change in the constitutional structure of the UK. Scottish MPs voting on English affairs is intolerable. The constitution is fundamentally unbalanced and needs changing quite substantially. The Westminster Parliament is caricatured as being English, when the English are the ones with the democratic deficit while every other other constituent country has an assembly.
That rebalancing is essential for Scotland as much as anywhere else. It's created the politics of resentment all round. And it's not healthy.
JoeMercer'sWay
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blimey that was close, 5-0 No though.
Henkeman said:DavidSilvasLeftFoot said:If they vote No then big changes will need to be made. The fact that up to 2 million people would vote to leave the Union says how bad things are. We need further devolution.
No, we need a change in the constitutional structure of the UK. Scottish MPs voting on English affairs is intolerable. The constitution is fundamentally unbalanced and needs changing quite substantially. The Westminster Parliament is caricatured as being English, when the English are the ones with the democratic deficit while every other other constituent country has an assembly.
That rebalancing is essential for Scotland as much as anywhere else. It's created the politics of resentment all round. And it's not healthy.
''politics of resentment'' is that another glib phrase from tory HQ , like ''politics of envy''?
DavidSilvasLeftFoot
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<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/AngrySalmond" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/AngrySalmond</a>
This is more entertaining coverage than the BBC
This is more entertaining coverage than the BBC