tolmie said:gutted, that was our chance, sit back and watch us getting pumped big time now
Flower of Scotland no more how can we sing that, as for Scotland the Brave, Scotland the Shitebag now!!!
I await a UKIP/Tory rule for years to come, oh joy!!
tolmie said:gutted, that was our chance, sit back and watch us getting pumped big time now
Flower of Scotland no more how can we sing that, as for Scotland the Brave, Scotland the Shitebag now!!!
I await a UKIP/Tory rule for years to come, oh joy!!
tolmie said:gutted, that was our chance, sit back and watch us getting pumped big time now
Flower of Scotland no more how can we sing that, as for Scotland the Brave, Scotland the Shitebag now!!!
I await a UKIP/Tory rule for years to come, oh joy!!
Cameron 'taken a gamble and won'?gordondaviesmoustache said:You make some good points, especially about changing comparisons with the Republic, but I disagree with your last point. I think Cameron had little choice in setting the bar at 50%. A 55% yes vote in a 60% super majority would have been a truly awful and divisive outcome.mad4city said:gordondaviesmoustache said:I wasn't referring to in-fighting. Quite the opposite. I was talking about blaming the result on 'the media' 'big business' and ' vested interests' like Tommy Sheridan did, for example. Sturgeon was talking a similar talk.
Maybe the people of Scotland didn't want independence.
Like I said, no-one likes a bad loser.
Sorry, my mistake.
And you're right about the result being what Scotland wanted and no more.
Personally, I think had this vote been taken ten or fifteen years ago, when the economy was booming and the Yes Campaign could've urged the electorate to look at how there'd never be a poor day in post-independence Ireland again, they'd have won by a landslide.
In a close run thing, especially during economically straitened times, people may say one thing but in the privacy of the ballot box their wallets speak louder than their idealism. That ultimately was the tipping point for me.
On a side note, how stupid was Cameron not to demand that any Yes vote would need to be carried by a super majority (say 60%, at least)? He's a lucky boy to still be in a job this morning. Imagine the fall out had either side won by one percent.
He's taken a gamble and won, although not as big a gamble as some thought. I've previously posted on this thread on the power of the privacy of the ballot box. I always expected the power of conservatism to win the day in the end. In stable, western countries change is often viewed with some suspicion.
Ifwecouldjust....... said:Welsh next I reckon...................