Scottish independence

[Blueband Brother]

Scotland yesterday displayed the best form of democracy perhaps the world has to offer. For an issue so enormous and significant, the manner in which the people, although vehement and strong in conviction in their views, walked side by side to cast their votes without any violence, riots, complications and perceivable corruption shows that democracy still works in certain parts of the world.

The country is irrevocable changed even though the result was no as this whole issue has opened up avenues for more actions and reform. And even though united in name, there will be some divisions and conflict especially in Scotland where those that voted yes would need some time to shed off those sentiments they have allowed the world to see.

I always said this was never going to happen as I knew that those with common sense and those that did not allow themselves to be swept away by the Salmond Vanity Bandwagon of some pointless, misguided idea of independence will opt to vote no.

Regardless of the result, Scotland from how things transpired yesterday has a lot to be proud of.

 

[bluemanc]

Can you explain that one for us please

I'm expecting an answer along the lines of the Illuminati run banks and some connection to the Bank for International Settlements conspiracy keeping the Imperialists in power.

Don't be so fucking stupid.

It's the Knights Templar that run the banks.

Any fule kno that.

Lizards!big fuckers!

 

[stony]

Posting this tonight with a very heavy heart.

I'm absolutely devastated that the vote hasn't went the way I voted and wanted it to go. I truly feel we've succumbed to intimidation from a no capmapign riddled with corruption from the very core.

It wasn't just yes v no. It was yes v no, the government, the millionaire bankers, the main stream media. I should probably be surprised we even amassed 45% of the vote given what were up against.

I don't know how to even feel about being Scottish right now. Part of me is angry, part of me is gutted and part of me is embarrassed. Embarrassed that when the whole world was watching we didn't have the balls to stand on our own two feet.

From what I understand, the % of the vote from over 65's was almost 75% No. A resounding result which given the huge numbers of elderly voters had a great effect on the outcome. I'm gutted that many of them will not have to suffer while those who voted for change and their future generations will be forced to do what it's told by London.

We are a weak weak nation. In Zimbabwe you at get a gun to your head to force you to vote in a certain way. In Britain, it's not so severe but a more sly, manipulative, intimidation approach which has lied to the population.

One positive to take from the campaign is that hopefully Labour are now FINISHED in Scotland. At least the Tories have the guts to stab me in the chest.

As the only party I've ever voted for at any general elections, I'll never ever vote for them again. Traitors who sold their soul to the devil. The sight of Labour politicians hugging and shaking hands with Tories on the announcement of No votes will not wash easily.

On a positive note, and I find it difficult to find one, I still maintain I've got more in common than most people I meet from Manchester than say Aberdeen for example. I had hoped we could inspire you guys to demand more, however I hope that you join us in speaking up against the establishment to demand a fairer society.

I suppose the thought never occurred to you that they are older and wiser than yourself and able to see through the jingoistic nonsense that Salmond used throughout his campaign.

You infer they are somewhat selfish in that they won't be around for much longer so they should have let the young people decide.
Well that itself is just a load of selfish bollocks.

Suppose Salmond had won, and everything did go tits up like most serious economists predicted. What happens to those old people then ? Young men like yourself can just uproot and fuck off to England or Europe to start again. Old people don't have that luxury, they would be stuck there. Living out their last days in misery whilst all you fuckers who voted for it disappeared into the sunset.
I don't blame them one bit.

Salmond has divided a nation and I don't mean Britain. He has caused a rift in Scotland that may never heal. I hope history sees him for the power hungry, selfish cretin that he is.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Posting this tonight with a very heavy heart.

I'm absolutely devastated that the vote hasn't went the way I voted and wanted it to go. I truly feel we've succumbed to intimidation from a no capmapign riddled with corruption from the very core.

It wasn't just yes v no. It was yes v no, the government, the millionaire bankers, the main stream media. I should probably be surprised we even amassed 45% of the vote given what were up against.

I don't know how to even feel about being Scottish right now. Part of me is angry, part of me is gutted and part of me is embarrassed. Embarrassed that when the whole world was watching we didn't have the balls to stand on our own two feet.

From what I understand, the % of the vote from over 65's was almost 75% No. A resounding result which given the huge numbers of elderly voters had a great effect on the outcome. I'm gutted that many of them will not have to suffer while those who voted for change and their future generations will be forced to do what it's told by London.

We are a weak weak nation. In Zimbabwe you at get a gun to your head to force you to vote in a certain way. In Britain, it's not so severe but a more sly, manipulative, intimidation approach which has lied to the population.

One positive to take from the campaign is that hopefully Labour are now FINISHED in Scotland. At least the Tories have the guts to stab me in the chest.

As the only party I've ever voted for at any general elections, I'll never ever vote for them again. Traitors who sold their soul to the devil. The sight of Labour politicians hugging and shaking hands with Tories on the announcement of No votes will not wash easily.

On a positive note, and I find it difficult to find one, I still maintain I've got more in common than most people I meet from Manchester than say Aberdeen for example. I had hoped we could inspire you guys to demand more, however I hope that you join us in speaking up against the establishment to demand a fairer society.

I suppose the thought never occurred to you that they are older and wiser than yourself and able to see through the jingoistic nonsense that Salmond used throughout his campaign.

You infer they are somewhat selfish in that they won't be around for much longer so they should have let the young people decide.
Well that itself is just a load of selfish bollocks.

Suppose Salmond had won, and everything did go tits up like most serious economists predicted. What happens to those old people then ? Young men like yourself can just uproot and fuck off to England or Europe to start again. Old people don't have that luxury, they would be stuck there. Living out their last days in misery whilst all you fuckers who voted for it disappeared into the sunset.
I don't blame them one bit.

Salmond has divided a nation and I don't mean Britain. He has caused a rift in Scotland that may never heal. I hope history sees him for the power hungry, selfish cretin that he is.

You don't truly believe any of what you've just wrote do you?

Older and wiser eh. Sounds logical...

 

[Ducado]

Posting this tonight with a very heavy heart.

I'm absolutely devastated that the vote hasn't went the way I voted and wanted it to go. I truly feel we've succumbed to intimidation from a no capmapign riddled with corruption from the very core.

It wasn't just yes v no. It was yes v no, the government, the millionaire bankers, the main stream media. I should probably be surprised we even amassed 45% of the vote given what were up against.

I don't know how to even feel about being Scottish right now. Part of me is angry, part of me is gutted and part of me is embarrassed. Embarrassed that when the whole world was watching we didn't have the balls to stand on our own two feet.

From what I understand, the % of the vote from over 65's was almost 75% No. A resounding result which given the huge numbers of elderly voters had a great effect on the outcome. I'm gutted that many of them will not have to suffer while those who voted for change and their future generations will be forced to do what it's told by London.

We are a weak weak nation. In Zimbabwe you at get a gun to your head to force you to vote in a certain way. In Britain, it's not so severe but a more sly, manipulative, intimidation approach which has lied to the population.

One positive to take from the campaign is that hopefully Labour are now FINISHED in Scotland. At least the Tories have the guts to stab me in the chest.

As the only party I've ever voted for at any general elections, I'll never ever vote for them again. Traitors who sold their soul to the devil. The sight of Labour politicians hugging and shaking hands with Tories on the announcement of No votes will not wash easily.

On a positive note, and I find it difficult to find one, I still maintain I've got more in common than most people I meet from Manchester than say Aberdeen for example. I had hoped we could inspire you guys to demand more, however I hope that you join us in speaking up against the establishment to demand a fairer society.

I suppose the thought never occurred to you that they are older and wiser than yourself and able to see through the jingoistic nonsense that Salmond used throughout his campaign.

You infer they are somewhat selfish in that they won't be around for much longer so they should have let the young people decide.
Well that itself is just a load of selfish bollocks.

Suppose Salmond had won, and everything did go tits up like most serious economists predicted. What happens to those old people then ? Young men like yourself can just uproot and fuck off to England or Europe to start again. Old people don't have that luxury, they would be stuck there. Living out their last days in misery whilst all you fuckers who voted for it disappeared into the sunset.
I don't blame them one bit.

Salmond has divided a nation and I don't mean Britain. He has caused a rift in Scotland that may never heal. I hope history sees him for the power hungry, selfish cretin that he is.

You don't truly believe any of what you've just wrote do you?

Older and wiser eh. Sounds logical...

I happen to agree with him, you have been taken in by a Fairy Tale you got caught up in the hype but are having a go at people who saw through it all

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I suppose the thought never occurred to you that they are older and wiser than yourself and able to see through the jingoistic nonsense that Salmond used throughout his campaign.

You infer they are somewhat selfish in that they won't be around for much longer so they should have let the young people decide.
Well that itself is just a load of selfish bollocks.

Suppose Salmond had won, and everything did go tits up like most serious economists predicted. What happens to those old people then ? Young men like yourself can just uproot and fuck off to England or Europe to start again. Old people don't have that luxury, they would be stuck there. Living out their last days in misery whilst all you fuckers who voted for it disappeared into the sunset.
I don't blame them one bit.

Salmond has divided a nation and I don't mean Britain. He has caused a rift in Scotland that may never heal. I hope history sees him for the power hungry, selfish cretin that he is.

You don't truly believe any of what you've just wrote do you?

Older and wiser eh. Sounds logical...

I happen to agree with him, you have been taken in by a Fairy Tale you got caught up in the hype but are having a go at people who saw through it all

No my friend. Sadly "seeing through it all" applies to the corruption and bullying which took place from those 500miles south of me. Those in power have got exactly what they wanted and used every manipulative trick in the book to get there.

 

[Metal Biker]

You don't truly believe any of what you've just wrote do you?

Older and wiser eh. Sounds logical...

I happen to agree with him, you have been taken in by a Fairy Tale you got caught up in the hype but are having a go at people who saw through it all

No my friend. Sadly "seeing through it all" applies to the corruption and bullying which took place from those 500miles south of me. Those in power have got exactly what they wanted and used every manipulative trick in the book to get there.

They were giving you the answers.
They were giving you the facts.
They were cutting down the fantasies your glorious leader had conned you all with.

When it was proven he was talking shite, he called it "scaremongering", and like loyal parrots you all copied him.
Sadly it seems some of you still believe him. Talk about idolisation.

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

Posting this tonight with a very heavy heart.

I'm absolutely devastated that the vote hasn't went the way I voted and wanted it to go. I truly feel we've succumbed to intimidation from a no capmapign riddled with corruption from the very core.

It wasn't just yes v no. It was yes v no, the government, the millionaire bankers, the main stream media. I should probably be surprised we even amassed 45% of the vote given what were up against.

I don't know how to even feel about being Scottish right now. Part of me is angry, part of me is gutted and part of me is embarrassed. Embarrassed that when the whole world was watching we didn't have the balls to stand on our own two feet.

From what I understand, the % of the vote from over 65's was almost 75% No. A resounding result which given the huge numbers of elderly voters had a great effect on the outcome. I'm gutted that many of them will not have to suffer while those who voted for change and their future generations will be forced to do what it's told by London.

We are a weak weak nation. In Zimbabwe you at get a gun to your head to force you to vote in a certain way. In Britain, it's not so severe but a more sly, manipulative, intimidation approach which has lied to the population.

One positive to take from the campaign is that hopefully Labour are now FINISHED in Scotland. At least the Tories have the guts to stab me in the chest.

As the only party I've ever voted for at any general elections, I'll never ever vote for them again. Traitors who sold their soul to the devil. The sight of Labour politicians hugging and shaking hands with Tories on the announcement of No votes will not wash easily.

On a positive note, and I find it difficult to find one, I still maintain I've got more in common than most people I meet from Manchester than say Aberdeen for example. I had hoped we could inspire you guys to demand more, however I hope that you join us in speaking up against the establishment to demand a fairer society.

It's called democracy, get over it. We're not talking about Brigadoon here, where most of the yes voters seem to live. And what corruption are you referring to? Most of the Yes campaign, over 80% of the £5m, was funded by a couple of horrendously overweight lottery winners from down your way.
If it hadn't been for all the half wits in Glasgow/West coast the vote would have been even more comprehensive. There's a real gap developing between Glasgow/West Coast and the rest of Scotland which is ironic bearing in mind how Salmond and his cronies bleated on about Westminster having all the power. There's a similar position up here these days.
I don't think there's any evidence that 75% of the over 65's voted "no" but why let the facts get in the way of an ill-considered, drama queen rant. What utter nonsense. Most of the Scottish population voted against your opinion, that doesn't mean there was widespread corruption or weakness or mass outbreaks of stupidity and intimidation, it's just the exercise of people's rights under a free, democratic process.
Some of the comments in your post are an insult to the population of Scotland , to suggest that the no voters only voted no under duress/intimidation/lies is laughable. You've watched Braveheart too often.
Regardless of the outcome of the vote I'm proud to be Scottish first and British second....which probably makes me some kind of traitor in your eyes

 

[ayrshire_blue]

They gave us no answers or facts, only fear and lies.

You've been duped. Keep believing those in power and the country will go further to the dogs. See right though the fuckers. The establishment are all in it together.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

I'm genuinely gutted for you pal...comments from above are probably true as there would of been heavy disruption and negative consequences for many scots for around 5 years on a yes vote...but you would of come good eventually and prospered both e onomically and socially on your own feet...

Chin up and as Brenda says ' you go again' when the windows are realigned....