Scottish independence

[hilts]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Half wits from Glasgow and the west coast. Here was me thinking Dundee had the biggest yes % of all.

Free and democratic election - was that the BBC told you it was???

We shouldn't count Dundee on the basis that they are clearly clinically insane and have been for a good long time. Of course it was a free and democratic election, to suggest otherwise is nonsense. Put it this way, had the "yes' vote won I doubt you'd be on here complaining that the whole thing was rigged.

You sound so far up your own arse it's beyond possible to reason in common sense with you. I'm out.

They gave us no answers or facts, only fear and lies.

You've been duped. Keep believing those in power and the country will go further to the dogs. See right though the fuckers. The establishment are all in it together.

You got your election and the majority shit out because they were worried about the pound in their pocket, if you think people were duped then that is their own fault for being so bleeding stupid, on the flip side maybe the SNP have duped you and you can't see it

Personally too many No voters were too concerned about the short term problems independence would cause, they didn't have the balls to take a risk and provide a society they had more of a say in.

Cowardly or prudent depending on your view

Agree with this. Hey, I might well have ended up worse off through my own lifetime. But in the longer term there was only one sensible option and the country's bottled it. Our own Steven Gerrard moment.

And the annoying thing is there is nothing you can do about it, it is a sad fact of life that the majority think of themselves or those close to them, i would be pissed off too if i were scottish but try and chill and accept life is unfair and power corrupts and you did your best

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Half wits from Glasgow and the west coast. Here was me thinking Dundee had the biggest yes % of all.

Free and democratic election - was that the BBC told you it was???

We shouldn't count Dundee on the basis that they are clearly clinically insane and have been for a good long time. Of course it was a free and democratic election, to suggest otherwise is nonsense. Put it this way, had the "yes' vote won I doubt you'd be on here complaining that the whole thing was rigged.

You sound so far up your own arse it's beyond possible to reason in common sense with you. I'm out.

oh dear, was it something I said?

 

[baildon blue]

I know some dim people who are into that illumanti bollocks .
Go on twitter and illumanti will tell is sh** thoughts to you .
Its question after question all about conspiracy .
Bloody pointless .

Its not a conspiracy; its a carefully crafted and devised system dating back to the two original kingdoms of Ancient Egypt which, to this day, continues to influence the financial markets all across the globe (that's why the US have suddenly started calling it ISIL rather than ISIS, so as not to offend the Isis worshippers!)

The truth is out there! Drink your own bath water, fluoride is mind control, wireless technology is brain manipulation, they mean to turn us into robot slaves! Ignore the talking fish!!!

Its like reading your horoscope pointless .

 

[laserblue]

They gave us no answers or facts, only fear and lies.

You've been duped. Keep believing those in power and the country will go further to the dogs. See right though the fuckers. The establishment are all in it together.

That's an incredible assertion considering that throughout the campaign Salmond (and his Jimmy Krankie lookalike sidekick) both spouted lies, bullshit and fantasy economics in a blatantly dishonest attempt to present an independent Scotland as some kind of viable romantic ideal.

Salmond maintained an independent Scotland would keep the Pound and join the EU. The first wouldn't have been his decision to make. The second would have had multiple pitfalls. For a start Scotland wouldn't have been automatically welcomed in to the EU. It would have had to go to the back of the queue and apply as a new prospective member. To be accepted into the EU a new applicant has to be unanimously endorsed by all existing members all of which have a veto. Spain would have no alternative but to use its veto on a secessionist Scotland to keep its domestic policy on separatism (Catalunya and Euskaria) intact. Even if by a miracle Spain wouldn't have exercised its veto all new member states have to commit to adoptng the Euro. (Bye bye Pound). On top of that EU rules do not allow the admission of any country that doesn't have a central bank (i.e. a lender of last resort). Scotland doesn't have a central bank.

 

[blue cigar]

Yes wankers wanting a revote! Scum bastards showing their true colours,great result for scotland. Bitterness at its finest as accusations of vote rigging abound,salmond had them on a string and has casually fucked off and left them with nothing.

 

[stony]

Posting this tonight with a very heavy heart.

I'm absolutely devastated that the vote hasn't went the way I voted and wanted it to go. I truly feel we've succumbed to intimidation from a no capmapign riddled with corruption from the very core.

It wasn't just yes v no. It was yes v no, the government, the millionaire bankers, the main stream media. I should probably be surprised we even amassed 45% of the vote given what were up against.

I don't know how to even feel about being Scottish right now. Part of me is angry, part of me is gutted and part of me is embarrassed. Embarrassed that when the whole world was watching we didn't have the balls to stand on our own two feet.

From what I understand, the % of the vote from over 65's was almost 75% No. A resounding result which given the huge numbers of elderly voters had a great effect on the outcome. I'm gutted that many of them will not have to suffer while those who voted for change and their future generations will be forced to do what it's told by London.

We are a weak weak nation. In Zimbabwe you at get a gun to your head to force you to vote in a certain way. In Britain, it's not so severe but a more sly, manipulative, intimidation approach which has lied to the population.

One positive to take from the campaign is that hopefully Labour are now FINISHED in Scotland. At least the Tories have the guts to stab me in the chest.

As the only party I've ever voted for at any general elections, I'll never ever vote for them again. Traitors who sold their soul to the devil. The sight of Labour politicians hugging and shaking hands with Tories on the announcement of No votes will not wash easily.

On a positive note, and I find it difficult to find one, I still maintain I've got more in common than most people I meet from Manchester than say Aberdeen for example. I had hoped we could inspire you guys to demand more, however I hope that you join us in speaking up against the establishment to demand a fairer society.

I suppose the thought never occurred to you that they are older and wiser than yourself and able to see through the jingoistic nonsense that Salmond used throughout his campaign.

You infer they are somewhat selfish in that they won't be around for much longer so they should have let the young people decide.
Well that itself is just a load of selfish bollocks.

Suppose Salmond had won, and everything did go tits up like most serious economists predicted. What happens to those old people then ? Young men like yourself can just uproot and fuck off to England or Europe to start again. Old people don't have that luxury, they would be stuck there. Living out their last days in misery whilst all you fuckers who voted for it disappeared into the sunset.
I don't blame them one bit.

Salmond has divided a nation and I don't mean Britain. He has caused a rift in Scotland that may never heal. I hope history sees him for the power hungry, selfish cretin that he is.

You don't truly believe any of what you've just wrote do you?

Older and wiser eh. Sounds logical...

Of course I believe it, I had the benefit of thinking it through without being emotionally crippled as a result of being taken in by a load of nationalistic nonsense spouted by a self serving liar.

You had a vote, your side lost and it was all above board. You're getting more than your fair share of taxpayers money, you have nothing to whinge about, but I'm sure it won't stop you.
Get over it.

 

[Benarbia_is_god]

It's funny how the no campaign have been painted as the bullies but from my point of you the way some of the yeses conducted themselves over the course of the summer was disgraceful. They set upon anyone who dared say they were voting no on social media. Iv'e heard so much more from the yes campaign than I have of the no campaign too, ive' seen way more yeses on the telly spouting rubbish than nos.

In the end the silent majority came out in force and voted no, they remained silent for a lot of the campaign and when the day came they spoke louder. The yeses need to move on from this and stop blaming the media etc, it's bollocks. Glasgow and Dundee had lower turnouts than the average and they were the main yes hubs, says a lot.

 

[laserblue]

Yes wankers wanting a revote! Scum bastards showing their true colours,great result for scotland. Bitterness at its finest as accusations of vote rigging abound,salmond had them on a string and has casually fucked off and left them with nothing.

At least he'll be able to spend more time looking after his 76 year old wife.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

National dish of Scotland? - chips!
Most of them are on their shoulders.

 

[Metal Biker]

National dish of Scotland? - chips!
Most of them are on their shoulders.

Washed down with pints of bitter...

...lots and lots of bitter.