Scottish independence

bellbuzzer said:
Henkeman said:
DavidSilvasLeftFoot said:
If they vote No then big changes will need to be made. The fact that up to 2 million people would vote to leave the Union says how bad things are. We need further devolution.

No, we need a change in the constitutional structure of the UK. Scottish MPs voting on English affairs is intolerable. The constitution is fundamentally unbalanced and needs changing quite substantially. The Westminster Parliament is caricatured as being English, when the English are the ones with the democratic deficit while every other other constituent country has an assembly.

That rebalancing is essential for Scotland as much as anywhere else. It's created the politics of resentment all round. And it's not healthy.

''politics of resentment'' is that another glib phrase from tory HQ , like ''politics of envy''?

Don't make assumptions.

The resentment is in both directions, that's why it's a problem. Assuming it is some kind of dig is your own perception.
 
DavidSilvasLeftFoot said:
https://twitter.com/AngrySalmond

This is more entertaining coverage than the BBC
Love the " in an independent Scotland all bus stops will have bartenders" line
 
Henkeman said:
bellbuzzer said:
Henkeman said:
No, we need a change in the constitutional structure of the UK. Scottish MPs voting on English affairs is intolerable. The constitution is fundamentally unbalanced and needs changing quite substantially. The Westminster Parliament is caricatured as being English, when the English are the ones with the democratic deficit while every other other constituent country has an assembly.

That rebalancing is essential for Scotland as much as anywhere else. It's created the politics of resentment all round. And it's not healthy.

''politics of resentment'' is that another glib phrase from tory HQ , like ''politics of envy''?

Don't make assumptions.

The resentment is in both directions, that's why it's a problem. Assuming it is some kind of dig is your own perception.

point taken, an over-reaction to a good post.
 
Would be nice if Salmond fell on his sword or anyone elses for that matter.
What a horrible oily cnut of a man.
 
It's loud and clear - NO THANKS

As an Englishman living in Edinburgh this is a big deal for me and I am fucking delighted. The bullying and in your face aggression has failed.
 
As expected and I'm pleased but I think there will still have to be great change and of course it was promised by Cameron
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It's most unappealing, but not entirely unexpected, that some of the leading lights of the 'yes" campaign are seeking to apportion blame for this result.

No-oe likes a bad loser.

They're an alignment of various interests who were united by a common goal and now remain bitterly disappointed. Faced now with the inevitable loss of standing in the eyes of the electorate and a need to save their political skins, naturally, the old fractures will quickly reappear. Over here, on the greener, more civilised island, with our written constitution, we get to hold far more referendums that ye do (yay, us!). Trust me, there is ALWAYS a bitch fest amongst the losers.
Don't kid yourself that it'd be any different had the result been reversed.
 

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