Sean Dyche - vaccine for footballers?

[domalino]

Why how many have died?
Also, "they" are putting their families health at risk by deciding to play on. They have always had the option to refuse, but most haven't. There are players who have decided they will not risk family members and have withdrawn. Roy Hodgson should maybe do the same.
They are putting the show on for money reasons, and i wouldn't be bothered if we had a pause.
I would put their health above my own entertainment anyday.

Therefore they are not some kind of heroes for doing this. They have weighed up the risks and decided they are acceptable. Same as me in my job.
However, i have family members who actually work on Covid wards. They are doing a job no one else wants, but they do it anyway.
They ARE putting their families at severe risk every day for shit money and poor conditions.
They are actually heroes and your attitude needs adjusting if you don't see the difference.

Did anyone compare them to nurses? No.

The only objectionable thing here that needs adjusting is you pretending that the people who entertain you are all expendable 20 year old millionaires who are free to sit at home if they dont feel like it when its complete bullshit.

There is a small army of people behind each PL team that isn't elite athletes and are going to work earning normal money because otherwise they'd lose their jobs and can't pay the mortgage.

If you want them to call all football off that's fine. It will cost thousands of jobs, billions in tax income and result in dozens and dozens of football clubs being wiped out permanently, but if thats what you want to support then fine. However What you said was that no one is at risk because of football and that's bollocks.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I really dislike this attitude. They are risking their families lives and many of the staff are risking their lives. Roy Hodgson isn't a 20 year old elite athlete, nor are many of the people involved in keeping the Premier League show on the road for your entertainment.

This is a good point, but it's a sound reason to suspend football rather than vaccinate footballers. The only reason to vaccinate footballers before anyone else is money and greed. We've already seen the ugly side of the game in 2020 with the pressure to get 'project restart' going. It's the same again, and a joke that football is still being played at present.

 

[citizen_maine]

Roy Hodgson as a 73 year old, will also be getting his vaccine along with the other over 70's on the priority list

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

don't see how you can stop testing footballers given vaccines don't prevent infection and they'll still be around club staff/3rd party staff/family/friends who haven't been vaccinated yet.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

If footballers recieve preferential treatment , where will it stop , if youve got a few bob you can buy the vaccine privately and jump the queue ? lets look after the older and infirm who have the potential to die from this virus , the vast majority of the population would survive a bout of COVID , and young fit athletrs are definitely in that group.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

I think they should do it. The amount of vaccines they are doing it will barely delay anyone who is in line to get one.

Allardyce was on SSN today saying how it might not be morally right to carry on playing football - I disagree. My guess is there are a hefty amount of blokes (and girls) who are very reliant and grateful for these football games to give them something to focus on at the moment.

 

[domalino]

This is a good point, but it's a sound reason to suspend football rather than vaccinate footballers. The only reason to vaccinate footballers before anyone else is money and greed. We've already seen the ugly side of the game in 2020 with the pressure to get 'project restart' going. It's the same again, and a joke that football is still being played at present.

I dont think there's any argument for them being vaccinated now, but if the government hits its target of 2m a week then when the 13.5m over 70s, healthcare workers, care home residents and at risk people are vaccinated by mid-february then Dyche and co. Could make a much more compelling argument about it, given the tiny number of people involved (1000, bearing in mind we will be doing 50,000 an hour countrywide at that point) and the massive impact on the economy football has, not to mention rooting people to their sofa from 8-10 every evening and 12-5 Saturday and Sunday is a good way to stop them getting bored and breaking lockdown rules.

I dont know how you even measure mental health impact but there's been a lot of people posting on here that football is the one thing keeping them going so I suppose you could add that in as well.

Honestly I dont care if they jump the queue or not at that point, the groups responsible for over 90% of deaths will have been vaccinated. I suspect by March there will be some vaccine doses hitting the private market anyway and they'll probably buy those.

I dont know if anyone remembers but we had the same uproar at the idea the Premier League could get testing while PCR machines were short. Everyone was furious, football was terrible, then everyone sat down and watched it.

 

[discopop]

I dont think there's any argument for them being vaccinated now, but if the government hits its target of 2m a week then when the 13.5m over 70s, healthcare workers, care home residents and at risk people are vaccinated by mid-february then Dyche and co. Could make a much more compelling argument about it, given the tiny number of people involved (1000, bearing in mind we will be doing 50,000 an hour countrywide at that point) and the massive impact on the economy football has, not to mention rooting people to their sofa from 8-10 every evening and 12-5 Saturday and Sunday is a good way to stop them getting bored and breaking lockdown rules.

I dont know how you even measure mental health impact but there's been a lot of people posting on here that football is the one thing keeping them going so I suppose you could add that in as well.

Honestly I dont care if they jump the queue or not at that point, the groups responsible for over 90% of deaths will have been vaccinated. I suspect by March there will be some vaccine doses hitting the private market anyway and they'll probably buy those.

I dont know if anyone remembers but we had the same uproar at the idea the Premier League could get testing while PCR machines were short. Everyone was furious, football was terrible, then everyone sat down and watched it.

Apart from the moral issues involved and I understand your point about older people in football being at risk, Dyche’s comments just come across as entitlement and it’s not the first time he’s gone down the me, me, me avenue, I still remember his attitude to lower league clubs going bust if they didn’t get a bail out which were very distasteful for someone viewed in the media as “A proper football man”

 

[uweuweuwe]

Sort of related it seems the UAE have come under flack for vaccinating it's UAE team emirates cycling team. Most of which don't even live in the country.

 

[marco]

Nope
Who next rugby cricket. Olympics
Sort the vulnerable first

agreed.someone in the circle or along the chain will probably die because they may have to wait another day or two for a vaccine to arrive,if they go down this route they may as well privatise the drug so the rich get it before the poor