Season Ticket Renewals - small increases (again)

blueparrot said:
Yes, but then revenue doesn't mean a thing either it could be £1 billion and still make a loss, so matchday revenue should be compared to profits not revenue. I dont mind any debate about price increases and whether they are needed but its the only income revenue that fans dont want maximised, obviously, just reference it to profit not turnover.
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Going off the last 10 season ticket price increases. Figures aren’t accurate. Plucked from pie in the sky.

800k a season or £1mill a season.

£8mill or £10mill in total.

What have our overall revenues been over those 10 season's, minus the season ticket price rises?

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Manchester City confirm breaking £500m revenue barrier, entering fourth consecutive year of profit as 2017-18 Annual Report is published.

City post record revenues of £500.5 million, a 44% increase in five years

- Profits reported at £10.4 million, the Club’s fourth consecutive year of profitability

- Wage/revenue ratio sits at a healthy 52%

https://www.mancity.com/news/club news/club news/2018/september/manchester city annual report 1718
 
PL Prize Money. 2018-19 season.

2. Manchester City
Actual league position: 1st
Matches televised: 26
TV income: £30.1million
Prize money: £38million
Equal share: £79.4million
Total: £147.5million
 
squirtyflower said:
Same happened to us.
We were offered the first row in 127, told them to stick it.
So we can have one day extra for relocation? That’s generous of them. What if we happen to be working all day on that one day.
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Unbelievable that isn’t it. Front row. Who on earth would want that ? You will be lucky to get good seats one day extra or not. Complete pisstake when 93.20 seats are only 3/4 full most games.
 
UEFA CL prize money 2018-19.(booo!)

Share for clubs competing in UEFA Champions League (group stage onwards)
Forecast amounts (total €1.95bn)
The net revenue available to participating clubs will be divided into four different pillars:
• 25% will be allocated to the starting fees (€488m).
• 30% will be allocated to the performance-related fixed amounts (€585m).
• 30% will be distributed on the basis of ten-year performance-based coefficient rankings (€585m).
• 15% will be allocated to the variable amounts (market pool) (€292m).

Starting fees (€488m)
Each of the 32 clubs that qualify for the group stage can expect to receive a group stage allocation of €15.25m.

Fixed amounts (€585m)
Group stage performance bonuses will be paid for each match: €2.7m per win and €900,000 per draw. Undistributed amounts (€900,000 per draw) will be pooled and redistributed among the clubs playing in the group stage in amounts proportionate to their number of wins.

Clubs that qualify for the knockout stage can expect to receive the following amounts:
• qualification for the round of 16: €9.5m per club
• qualification for the quarter-finals: €10.5m per club
• qualification for the semi-finals: €12m per club
• qualification for the final: €15m per club
• The UEFA Champions League winners can expect to pick up an additional €4m.
• The two clubs that qualify for the 2018 UEFA Super Cup can each expect to receive €3.5m, with the winners collecting an additional €1m.

Coefficient ranking (€585m)
A new ranking has been introduced on the basis of performances over a ten-year period. In addition to coefficient points accumulated during this period, this ranking includes bonus points for winning the UEFA Champions League/European Champion Clubs' Cup, the UEFA Europa League/UEFA Cup and the Cup Winners' Cup. On the basis of these parameters, a ranking has been established and the total amount of €585.05m has been divided into 'coefficient shares', with each share worth €1.108m. The lowest-ranked team will receive one share (€1.108m). One share will be added to every rank and so the highest-ranked team will receive 32 shares (€35.46m).

This ranking can be found on UEFA.com

Market pool (€292m)
The estimated available amount of €292m will be distributed in accordance with the proportional value of each TV market represented by clubs taking part in the UEFA Champions League (group stage onwards). The different market shares will be distributed to the participating clubs from each association.

The various amounts distributed from the market pool on a club-by-club basis depend on five factors:

1) the actual final amount in the market pool
2) the composition of the field of clubs participating in the 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
3) the number of clubs from any given association competing in the 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
4) the final position of each competing club in their previous season's domestic championship
5) the performance of each club in the 2018/19 UEFA Champions League

Solidarity payments

Solidarity payments for the qualifying phase of the UEFA club competitions

Under the new distribution system, €107.5m will be distributed to the clubs as follows.

UEFA Champions League – champions and league paths
Each domestic champion club that does not qualify for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League group stage will receive €260,000 in addition to the amounts due for participation in each qualifying round.

Each club participating in the qualifying rounds that does not qualify for the UCL play-offs will receive the following amounts per round played:
• preliminary round – €230,000
• first qualifying round – €280,000
• second qualifying round – €380,000
• third qualifying round – €480,000 (Only for clubs eliminated from the champions path, since clubs eliminated from the league path qualify directly for the UEFA Europa League group stage and therefore benefit from its distribution system.)
• No solidarity payments will be paid in the play-offs as the clubs involved will benefit from the UEFA Champions League/UEFA Europa League centralised phase distribution.

Solidarity payments to clubs that do not qualify for the group stage of the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League

The solidarity payments to non-participating clubs via their national associations and/or leagues will represent 4% of the overall gross revenues of the two competitions.

A forecast total of €130m will therefore be distributed to national associations and/or leagues for their clubs.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2562033.html
 
I have a question for those complaining about the prices increase: In the last 11 years Sheikh Mansour has invested over 1 billion of his own money in MCFC, and he's still investing millions every year via Etihad, Aabar, Etilasat and Abu Dhabi Tourism.
He is also one of the few sport club owners to reinvest back all of the club's profit.
So, do you guys really think City raised the price just because "they want to explore the working class"?

Just to remember, one of City's problems with FFP is that UEFA considers the value of City's sponsors to be very high compared to other incomes. Of Europe's top clubs, City's matchday income is the lowest when compared to commercial income. Although the club is billionaire, they need fans' money to justify such high sponsorships, be more 'self-sustaining', and to balance their books.

Here is a PL comparison (2017/18):

ARSENAL
Matchday income: £99m (59k attendance; £1,668 per supporter)
Commercial income: £107m
CHELSEA
Matchday income: £74m (41k attendance; £1,792 per supporter)
Commercial: £170m
LIVERPOOL
Matchday income: £81m (53k attendance; £1,526 per supporter)
Commercial: £154m
MANCHESTER CITY
Matchday income: £57m (54k attendance; £1,059 per supporter)
Commercial: £232m
MANCHESTER UNITED
Matchday income: £110m (74k attendance; £1,467 per supporter)
Commercial: £276m
TOTTENHAM
Matchday income: £71m (67k attendance; £1,044 per supporter)
Commercial: £109m

+£1m or £2m a season seems a little but sends the message that the club is growing with the help of fans. City is fighting against a Cartel, so the club have to play their game (and hopefully win it).
I believe the season card will continue to get more expensive while FFP is a problem. When that is over, the club will probably freeze the price or even decrease it. (that's my view)
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
If you can get the next price bracket further up at £415 they are incredible value (they start at row L). I've not seen much movement in the three years it's been open, mind.
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Those seats are the best value for money in the stadium. Think it’s row k for about 8 rows up. They were snapped up on day one. I pay £240 more for 5 rows or so below. Might get one in there but never 2/3 together.
 
Craig said:
Let's not try and blame anyone other than the club's shear greed for our yearly increases.
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City are run as a business. It's the board's job to raise revenue from every conceivable angle. Yes it conflicts with supporters. That's the nature of business

Those who arguing that the board are not acting in the best interests of the club don't understand the world we live in.

We are forced to compete. Take away the competition by regulating ticket prices, then that solves the problem.

You see this all the time with worker owned businesses. They would like to run their business another way, with different priorities but get forced but the market to play by the rules. In this world there are conflicts of interest. Capitalism screws workers to make a profit, there is no way around it. You can say that the bosses are incompetent and they should run it a different way, but there is no third way. It may sound like capitulation, but it isn't. It's just recognising the world for what is is. Not liking it either.
 
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