Season Ticket Renewals - small increases (again)

[squirtyflower]

Friday 14th 9am

So if what someone posted is true that we get a day earlier then it would be 13th June.
And I’m working away that day in Tuxford. Brilliant.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Those seats are the best value for money in the stadium. Think it’s row k for about 8 rows up. They were snapped up on day one. I pay £240 more for 5 rows or so below. Might get one in there but never 2/3 together.

They start at L (I'm in row M). I feel sorry for people paying £240 more two rows in front of me.

 

[cleavers]

57,000 at an average of £50 per ticket

It doesn't hold 57,000.

 

[bladdered]

I remember back in the day going to aways on the official Fingland's coaches with Helen the bell RIP ruling the roost. Back then we didn't have a massive following so it was all about looking after your own. My abiding memory of Helen was how she would give her last 50p to get a lad who was short of cash into the game. This was from a lady who sold flowers for a living outside the MRI. Now that was part of the reason that I began to love City. This is where we have come from and we cannot let those less fortunate fall behind.

 

[blueparrot]

Going off the last 10 season ticket price increases. Figures aren’t accurate. Plucked from pie in the sky.

800k a season or £1mill a season.

£8mill or £10mill in total.

What have our overall revenues been over those 10 season's, minus the season ticket price rises?

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Manchester City confirm breaking £500m revenue barrier, entering fourth consecutive year of profit as 2017-18 Annual Report is published.

City post record revenues of £500.5 million, a 44% increase in five years

- Profits reported at £10.4 million, the Club’s fourth consecutive year of profitability

- Wage/revenue ratio sits at a healthy 52%

https://www.mancity.com/news/club news/club news/2018/september/manchester city annual report 1718

Thats all true but its still only the profit that matters, revenue has nothing to do with it. Take the price rises off the profit for the true picture.

 

[birchvillablue]

I think the question fans need to ask is do we want to be like the rags, soul less prawn muncher's? Only the rich and middle classes able to afford tickets?
You only have to look at the appointment of twats like Hugh Ferris to see that decisions like season ticket prices are being decided by Marketing twats, who see fans as lines on graphs, and segments of fuckin pie charts...

 

[blueparrot]

I haven't read all the thread, but by my very rough calculation

57,000 at an average of £50 per ticket = £2.85M per game
Multiply that by 19 games = £54M
a 3% increase = an additional £1.6M revenue
Or in the grand scheme of things, with a £500M revenue, the 1.6M equates to an additional third of one percent (0.3%)

My ticket in 104 is now at £820 and I'm at tipping point
I don't go to CL matches and went to only one league cup game last season and two FA cup. One of the FA cup matches was the final at an entire cost of £200. The only reason I went was to show my appreciation of a spectacular season, but no matter what, I won't be stumping up anything like that again for a game of football.
And it's more than likely I won't attend any cup matches again

But without that £1.6 mill last seasons £1 mill profit would have been a loss of 0.6 mill

 

[Marvin]

I have a question for those complaining about the prices increase: In the last 11 years Sheikh Mansour has invested over 1 billion of his own money in MCFC, and he's still investing millions every year via Etihad, Aabar, Etilasat and Abu Dhabi Tourism.
He is also one of the few sport club owners to reinvest back all of the club's profit.
So, do you guys really think City raised the price just because "they want to explore the working class"?

Just to remember, one of City's problems with FFP is that UEFA considers the value of City's sponsors to be very high compared to other incomes. Of Europe's top clubs, City's matchday income is the lowest when compared to commercial income. Although the club is billionaire, they need fans' money to justify such high sponsorships, be more 'self-sustaining', and to balance their books.

Here is a PL comparison (2017/18):

ARSENAL
Matchday income: £99m (59k attendance; £1,668 per supporter)
Commercial income: £107m
CHELSEA
Matchday income: £74m (41k attendance; £1,792 per supporter)
Commercial: £170m
LIVERPOOL
Matchday income: £81m (53k attendance; £1,526 per supporter)
Commercial: £154m
MANCHESTER CITY
Matchday income: £57m (54k attendance; £1,059 per supporter)
Commercial: £232m
MANCHESTER UNITED
Matchday income: £110m (74k attendance; £1,467 per supporter)
Commercial: £276m
TOTTENHAM
Matchday income: £71m (67k attendance; £1,044 per supporter)
Commercial: £109m

+£1m or £2m a season seems a little but sends the message that the club is growing with the help of fans. City is fighting against a Cartel, so the club have to play their game (and hopefully win it).
I believe the season card will continue to get more expensive while FFP is a problem. When that is over, the club will probably freeze the price or even decrease it. (that's my view)

Thanks for collating the data. You're certainly correct in identifying a significant shortfall between City's match-day revenue and other top clubs. However City dwarf some of those rivals clubs when it comes to broadcasting and commercial income, largely on the back of league titles and success. City's problem with match-day income is that we're not in LOndon, where the money is.

However, I do not know where you have got the idea that Sheikh Mansour pumps money into City through Etihad Airlines. That's what the media would like you to believe but Sheikh Mansour does not own Etihad Airlines. City fans believe that he UAE Executive Council underwrote the Etihad sponsorship because of their financial problems which are well known. Our Chairman sits on that Executive Committee but I seriously doubt that back in 2010 or 2011 when this deal was negotiated, City had any influence over Etihad Airlines. The UAE state is probably the source of the money, but that does not mean that it comes from the coffers of Sheikh Mansour, it's just a case of the state making good on on the state airline's commercial obligations. The other UAE sponsorship deals you mentioned, are minor.

That's my interpretation of it. You might think otherwise, but as others have said, you can't make a claim like that, without justifying it.

 

[squirtyflower]

But without that £1.6 mill last seasons £1 mill profit would have been a loss of 0.6 mill

We’d save that if we got rid of the wand wankers confiscating kids’ food and drink, the ‘I’m here to help pillocks’ and the happy crew wanting to take photos of you with their iPads.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

We’d save that if we got rid of the wand wankers confiscating kids’ food and drink, the ‘I’m here to help pillocks’ and the happy crew wanting to take photos of you with their iPads.

Add Hugh Fucking Ferris to the unnecessary expenditure.