It technically isn't the law, it's an act/statute, that's why it's so ridiculous and makes no sense, the criminals can make up anything they want and hide it under "law" when in reality it always is and always will be an act or statute. But for City, they can do what they want, wouldn't be wise to continually piss off fans but. Best thing to do is plead your case, be reasonable at all times and accept a ban if one comes. You never know, they could reduce it just for you being respectful towards them.
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Seasoncard ban due to finishing drink at seat
- Thread starter The Colonel
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oakiecokie
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Nope !!So if a game of rugby is taking part in side a FOOTBALL stadium the same rules should surely apply. Especially drinking alcohol in sight of the pitch.
Has nothing to do with the stadium.Its the sport that is banned, from using these stupid laws.
Prestwich_Blue
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The Act specifies that it applies to football matches involving clubs that are members of the English & Welsh FA's. They could amend that to Rugby matches if they so desired but currently it's only applicable to football clubs.I know this law (criminal offence (Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985) is bollocks, It's say's "Sporting Events" not "football events" yet I bet you on the 10th Oct you can't drink what you like at a seat in the Etihad !
I am snitching on you unless you pay me £1,000 of your English money.Do what we do and mix drinks into coke bottles and take them in. :)
whp.blue
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Sorry to say that I think you're on rocky ground on this one mate. It sounds unfair that the police decided to adopt a commonsense approach and not to take it further yet you've still been banned by the club. Trouble is, the club have a right to ban who they want even if you've not been convicted of anything - maybe not the best analogy but I'd compare it to being barred from a pub.
A similar thing, albeit a different offence, happened to my mate on the day we won the title against West Ham - when Kompany scored the second goal somebody (not my mate) set a flare off in our section. It ended up on the floor near us and my mate somewhat naively picked it up and waved it around his head for no more than a couple of seconds before dropping it. About 10 minutes later the stewards turned up and he was arrested. The police let him go without charge about an hour or so after the match ended and he met us in town to join in with the title celebrations. We all thought that was that but a few days later he got a letter off the club saying he was banned for the whole of the following season. We all thought this was OTT as the police themselves had been decent enough about it. He sent a letter of appeal to the club, explaining that he wasn't the one that had set it off, it was a moment of madness in the heat of a goal celebration, etc, but while they acknowledged that it wasn't him that set it off, they still upheld the decision to ban him - I think the fact that he was "in possession" of it at some point meant that it was still an offence.
If you only end up with a 3 game ban, it's probably advisable to take it on the chin. If it turns out to be full season, there's no harm in appealing it but looking at what happened to my mate I can make an educated guess at what the outcome will be.
Did M ever get his loyalty points back or did they make him start at zero again?
M18CTID
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Did M ever get his loyalty points back or did they make him start at zero again?
Yes, to be fair they just froze his points until such a time he was eligible to go again. Also, when we were in the process of moving to the new block that was organised by the 1894 Group the club allocated him a seat next to us in 115 instead of re-allocating him his old season ticket seat. So there was some decent co-operation from the club but no budging whatsoever on his original ban.
whp.blue
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Yes, to be fair they just froze his points until such a time he was eligible to go again. Also, when we were in the process of moving to the new block that was organised by the 1894 Group the club allocated him a seat next to us in 115 instead of re-allocating him his old season ticket seat. So there was some decent co-operation from the club but no budging whatsoever on his original ban.
They probably have a set tarriff for such offences and they were more than fair when the ban was served probably makes winnig appeals easier for them if they can show they stick to their preset tariffs. Like you I expect a season long ban for drinking in the ground.
The ban after conviction refers to a banning order which the court has the power to make if found guilty of the of the offence.
The stadium is private property and as such the club has the right to ban you if they choose to. As you can be banned from the railway or a pub. I haven't had chance to check the terms and conditions issued with the seasoncard but am certain it will be covered in there. If the club had acted unreasonably then you could take legal action to recover the cost of your seasoncard. You won't succeed. There is no way you could force them to have you back if they don't want to. As I say its private property.
The stadium is private property and as such the club has the right to ban you if they choose to. As you can be banned from the railway or a pub. I haven't had chance to check the terms and conditions issued with the seasoncard but am certain it will be covered in there. If the club had acted unreasonably then you could take legal action to recover the cost of your seasoncard. You won't succeed. There is no way you could force them to have you back if they don't want to. As I say its private property.
80s Shorts
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Do what we do and mix drinks into coke bottles and take them in. :)
SShhhhush!!!
stonerblue
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Thanks for the advice and wishes chaps - the club have written to me and I responded giving the events from my side. That was a week ago and no response has been sent or even acknowledgement. I expect that the ban may be given and I may just bite the bullet on this, but I still think that they are out of contract on the seasoncard terms and conditions - which actually mentions smoking but not this drinking in view of the pitch thing.
The legal act actually states that a ban may be placed "if convicted" and they have to prove that the plastic bottle and beer dregs could have caused damage.
for fucks sake.. I turn up pissed most times and even then i know not to take me drink in.