Seat Counters - 2024/25

It's damning that every single home league game isn't sold out, regardless of the underlying reason. We are the best and most successful club in Europe this past decade, we also have some of the largest social media followings in world football. Something is drastically wrong seeing the number of vacant seats last night. Whether it's the club's fault, the fan's fault, or a mixture of both, it's not a good look and feeds right into the 'emptyhad' agenda.
It is 100% the clubs fault. You reference a worldwide social media following and that worldwide income stream, and the tourist market, is what has been chased relentlessly at the expense of the relationship with our core local support, which has been priced out and disrespected for years. Last night, pre Xmas, midweek, dark and wet, is just the sort of game City should be seriously discounting and trying to rebuild the bridges a bit, but they don’t seem interested at all. The new stand and hotel will be full of tourists for the big games, if we remain successful. If we don’t, there will be a lot of empty seats to count at a lot of games, especially midweek.
 
Due to friends and family being ill and other circumstances, l had 8 tickets available to me last night, I couldn’t get rid of one on this forum for £10 even hospitality at £20 including a pint and program wouldn’t sell.
In the end I managed to give one hospitality away for free outside the ground to a very grateful Barcelona fan boy! Who’s friends had already paid £100 each for their tickets
That's the problem the club find trying to sell them at the last minute
The other big problem we haven't focused on our local.support into regular match going fans .Because of the crazy way we sell tickets plus the daft prices far to many ( me included) are used to putting our feet up and watching on telly or in the pub.If I was offered one free last night I wouldn't have gone
I would rather wait for cup games which ticketsv are easier to get and along with other armchair supporting mates will have a few beers in a pub then sit together in the ground
Fair play for trying to get shut of them
 
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Makes no sense. It actually states that 4 of our 7 home games this season have been sell outs, but then says our average is 46k, yet if you look at some of the recent years it states zero sell outs for the whole season in many of them but our average attendance was 52k/53k in all of those!
 
It is 100% the clubs fault. You reference a worldwide social media following and that worldwide income stream, and the tourist market, is what has been chased relentlessly at the expense of the relationship with our core local support, which has been priced out and disrespected for years. Last night, pre Xmas, midweek, dark and wet, is just the sort of game City should be seriously discounting and trying to rebuild the bridges a bit, but they don’t seem interested at all. The new stand and hotel will be full of tourists for the big games, if we remain successful. If we don’t, there will be a lot of empty seats to count at a lot of games, especially midweek.
The club clearly never learned the lesson from Burnley last year and other games over the years
 
Last night there were quite a few who turned up late because they thought it was 8pm! Shit weather, early kick off so people struggle to get away from work school night and horrendous traffic I’m surprised there aren’t more empty seats. TV schedules the amount of games and of course pricing out locals it’s all coming to a head now.
 
Makes no sense. It actually states that 4 of our 7 home games this season have been sell outs, but then says our average is 46k, yet if you look at some of the recent years it states zero sell outs for the whole season in many of them but our average attendance was 52k/53k in all of those!
Makes no sense. It actually states that 4 of our 7 home games this season have been sell outs, but then says our average is 46k, yet if you look at some of the recent years it states zero sell outs for the whole season in many of them but our average attendance was 52k/53k in all of those!
Hi,I've explained what I think has happened on the previous page so it will be back over the 51k once the crowd figure is given out...
 
It's damning that every single home league game isn't sold out, regardless of the underlying reason. We are the best and most successful club in Europe this past decade, we also have some of the largest social media followings in world football. Something is drastically wrong seeing the number of vacant seats last night. Whether it's the club's fault, the fan's fault, or a mixture of both, it's not a good look and feeds right into the 'emptyhad' agenda.
Yawn!!!
 
Credit to all the Blues who ensured tickets were transferred / resold with many available below face value. It was a respectable crowd for the time of year and conditions.

If Blues stop buying resale tickets direct from City, they will have to do something about ticket prices:

Credit to the singers who got the ground going and helped to make it an enjoyable night. Hopefully, we can kick on from this win.

Those posters who wanted boycotts etc, please boycott an away game rather than trying to brainwash everyone who loves going to the Etihad. Everyone says Anfield’s a shit hole so that could be a fixture to protest about, next season.
 
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Whatever or wherever they've got that from it's pure bollocks, I didn't go to the Feynoord game or tonights, but haven't missed any others, and there's been few empty seats, so it's neither "bums on seats" or "tickets sold", just pure shite.

One away team didn't sell the 3rd tier out (Sothampton probably) but even that didn't have more than 1000 missing.
Watford in the League Cup might have been a bit low, but I agree the figure of 46k is simply bollocks.
 
The problem with slashing prices for one-off PL games close to the fixture is that it undermines the club's decision to sell all PL games well in advance. I doubt the crowd would have been much higher had we not had a slump om the pitch due to it being midweek, in December, and with it pissing down all day.
 
That's the problem the club find trying to sell them at the last minute
The other big problem we haven't up our local.support into regular match going fans .Because of the crazy way we sell tickets plus the daft prices far to many ( me included) are used to putting our feet up and watching on telly or in the pub.If I was offered one free last night I wouldn't have gone
I would rather wait for cup games which ticketsv are easier to get and along with other armchair supporting mates will have a few beers in a pub then sit together in the ground
Fair play for trying to get shut of them
If Forest hadn’t taken all 3 tiers of the away end. (Credit to them), I think City would have discounted tickets being sold in the South Stand L3 like they did against Brentford last season.
 
It is 100% the clubs fault. You reference a worldwide social media following and that worldwide income stream, and the tourist market, is what has been chased relentlessly at the expense of the relationship with our core local support, which has been priced out and disrespected for years. Last night, pre Xmas, midweek, dark and wet, is just the sort of game City should be seriously discounting and trying to rebuild the bridges a bit, but they don’t seem interested at all. The new stand and hotel will be full of tourists for the big games, if we remain successful. If we don’t, there will be a lot of empty seats to count at a lot of games, especially midweek.
Nah. The club has some degree of blame, I won't disagree on that. However, it's too convenient to just pin it all on them.

Taking a sample of my mates on our city fans WhatsApp group, this week, approximately half of them said that they couldn't be arsed going last night because... (One of the below reasons)

- Just can't be arsed
- Got other plans
- We're playing shite
- The league is over anyway
- It's only Forrest
- The weather is crap
- The kickoff time is too early
- It's on Amazon Prime and I'm a member

If the WhatsApp group is extrapolated across our entire fan base, it would definitely be unfair to say that 100% of fans don't go because of ticket pricing.
 
Take it you were home before the final whistle then?
Applauding the team off after the final whistle, like I have been doing for the last 50 years.

The most visible empty seats were in the family stand, in blocks we know wouod have been sold to season card holders. There weren’t enough to get worked up about.

If Blues won’t make spares available or if families of 8 go down with sickness on the day of the game, there is very little the club can do to fill those seats. It’s not really about price cos it’s one of the cheapest areas of the ground.

Btw, I have an unpaid part-time role that’s mainly about growing the Club’s fan base. Also known as running an OSC Branch.
 
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Nah. The club has some degree of blame, I won't disagree on that. Howe, it's to convenient to just pin it all on them.

Taking a sample of my mates on our city fans WhatsApp group, this week, approximately half of them said that they couldn't be arsed going last night because... (One of the below reasons)

- Just can't be arsed
- Got other plans
- We're playing shite
- The league is over anyway
- It's only Forrest
- The weather is crap
- The kickoff time is too early
- It's on Amazon Prime and I'm a member

If the WhatsApp group is extrapolated across our entire fan base, it would definitely be unfair to say that 100% of fans don't go because of ticket pricing.
You cannot take one match in microcosm. That type of apathy will always have been present, whenever it rains, or we lose a couple of games, etc. The big underlying problem is that the club has adopted ticketing, pricing and membership policies that has reduced enormously the pool of local match going blues that would pick up the slack when a few of the more easily deterred drop out. The occasional attendee, possibly with kids or grandkids has been priced out and once the even occasional match going habit goes, it goes. From my perspective, City have put all of their eggs in the lucrative corporate and tourist basket, and neglected completely initiatives aimed more locally and affordably. As I originally said, that is great, just as long as we win week in week out, and keep the tourists engaged at top dollar. If we don’t….
 
You cannot take one match in microcosm. That type of apathy will always have been present, whenever it rains, or we lose a couple of games, etc. The big underlying problem is that the club has adopted ticketing, pricing and membership policies that has reduced enormously the pool of local match going blues that would pick up the slack when a few of the more easily deterred drop out. The occasional attendee, possibly with kids or grandkids has been priced out and once the even occasional match going habit goes, it goes. From my perspective, City have put all of their eggs in the lucrative corporate and tourist basket, and neglected completely initiatives aimed more locally and affordably. As I originally said, that is great, just as long as we win week in week out, and keep the tourists engaged at top dollar. If we don’t….
Fairs points well made
 
There will be an additional 3k season tickets next season
No, there will be an additional 3k flexigold tickets next season.

Flexigold is a £150 membership that allows fans to buy tickets for each Premier League game.

They're restrictive (you HAVE to commit to going 3 weeks in advance and you cannot transfer your ticket if something comes up and you can't make it. You cannot use the ticket exchange either).

They're extortionate (for a fan who wants to attend all 19 games, they would pay an additional £150 compared to someone who is lucky enough to have a seasoncard).



We need to ensure fans do not buy the club's crap about FlexiGold.... We need actual seasoncards, not new memberships designed to increase revenue for the club (at the expense of fans).

The fairest route the club could take is to offer everyone the option of either flexi gold or a normal seasoncard and let the fans decide which is better for them. The fact they're not offering that choice lets you know exactly who's benefiting from the membership type.
 

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