The figure for the rest of the ground will be closer to 7%, when you consider how much of the capacity is either part of hospitality, or sold via official resellers.Closer to 7% on sale with only 4 full blocks and less than a third of 314 which has 500 away fans and then segregation, then 9 seats wide for city fans. You have assumed 5000 home fans when it is close to 4,300.
The economy is definitely playing a part in this, people are spending less in general.I think the current economic state of the country is a major factor not just ticketing policy and pricing. Everyone seems gloomy at the moment.
I actually think the atmosphere is having an impact on ticket sales too.The economy is definitely playing a part in this, people are spending less in general.
But I firmly belive that if the club had treated its core fanbase properly since winning the treble, then these 1,900 seats would have flown off the shelf, bad economy or not. However we don't currently have the excess demand
The % for the rest of the ground reduces when you remove SSL3 from your figure for the whole ground so you would need to make that adjustment first.The figure for the rest of the ground will be closer to 7%, when you consider how much of the capacity is either part of hospitality, or sold via official resellers.
And again, these seats sell at a slower rate to the rest of the ground, which explains why there might be slightly more of them.
I don't agree at all that paying less for a season ticket, increases someone's likelihood of putting their ticket up.
I wouldn't be averse to a game like this kicking off earlier, 19:00 perhapsYeah but it's a school night and it might get a little nippy in December. Some of them won't want to go because it's a night game and could get dark.
People will find excuses/reasons to not go even if the club lowers prices and has sensible ticket sale restrictions.
My 16 year old grandson who's had a season ticket for 12 years said throughout his five years at big school he only spoke with 5 different students that go to watch football live and none season ticket holders.But these younger fans don't exist, those ten year olds at the time of the 93;20 who you'd normally expect to catch the bug would be in their early 20s now and they aren't there. A tiny proportion of locals fans between the age of 16-25 watch City when you'd normally assume people would be desperate to watch the most successful club of the last decade, they have no sense of belonging and the club had alienated great swathes of local supporters, lapsed fans are still not returning in any real numbers, once you get out of the habit you generally don't return and ALL of this is down to the club and their policies.
That happens in the FLT, for some games anyway. The 5pm verses Porto was carnage getting there but it was great for getting back. 6.30 would be optimum for me midweek.I wouldn't be averse to a game like this kicking off earlier, 19:00 perhaps
I have got it Dave, even if you keeping on convincing yourself I haven't got it. ;-)You have never, ever, ever got this. Ever.
There are many more than 1000 season tickets returned for most matches. Sometimes it is more like 5000. These tickets used to just get unused. Figures were released a few years ago about exactly how many and it was sometimes up to 10,000 a match.
Aren't these just largely season ticket returns? They look like that to me as they are 1s and 2s dotted through the blocks.it's also obvious the ticket drop with 3 weeks to the game is way too late in this day and age, the arrogance to hold tickets back that have not sold to tourists and expect members and season ticket holders to take up the slack is a dreadful policy, the whole thing feels like your core support is an afterthought.
I’m in Germany for the Xmas markets - listed mine and it sold quickly too.I cant go tomorrow as out with the kids on xmas day out. Listed my ticket on Monday and it sold in about an hour.
Good numbers that for a boring Cup tie against another PL team Brentford who will hardly bring any fans.Sunderland:
1,896 Showing
Brentford:
L0: 1,975
L1: 2,266
Total Left: 4,241 (+ approx 8,500 L3 Seats) - 1,200 Sold since yesterday morning, so sales picking up
To be fair, this is a guaranteed refund game and with Xmas approaching, a lot more have listed theirs on the exchange than you would expect for a Saturday 3pm kick-off.So, let’s go with the match has sold out.
So where have 1000 tickets, yes 1000 tickets, come from?
Personally I can’t ever see 1000 City fans listing their tickets on the ticket exchange before a match? No chance!
So are some of those 1000 tickets returns form the 9 official ticket touting websites?
If they are, those ticket never sold, and were returned to the club, if the rumour of how that happens is correct?
Going back to my other question?
Haven’t we got 1000 fans who will buy those tickets?
If not, and after nearly 15 years of continual success, 2nd in the PL, fighting for the title, Pep, Haaland, etc, that is very poor and worrying.
Perhaps we need to restrict returns for tickets bought so far in advance. Something like returns can only be made in the first fortnight after the TV dates have been released for a fixture. - It will hit those who have late problems but will benefit those who are looking for tickets but need more than 48 hours notice of availability.The match was sold out months ago. These are return tickets which always become available two weeks before every game as people find they are unable to make the fixture. This is what happens for every home league match and I am surprised you don't know that. You are not fooling anyone on here.
To be fair, this is a guaranteed refund game and with Xmas approaching, a lot more have listed theirs on the exchange than you would expect for a Saturday 3pm kick-off.
I do think several hundred returns from 3rd party ticketing partners have been added too though as when I checked the other day there were well over 100 in a few of the 3rd tier blocks, many of them grouped together
FWIW, tickets for United’s game against West Ham the other night were on general sale and anyone could buy one. Granted it was a Thursday night but I think that’s pretty much unheard of for a United league game in the PL era.
I get the feeling that demand for tickets is down across a lot of clubs in the league. Spurs way short of selling out CL home games this season is another example.
When I had a nosey at their website the other week it didn’t even look like you needed a membership. It just said tickets are on general sale to all supporters but maybe you needed to buy a membership first or they added that stipulation in after I checked2 United mates in work turned down a ticket each that they could have bought via their membership cards for £50 each. They weren't prepared to pay £50.
Alot of these tickets returned are corporate returns in the 3rd tiers at the back of the east stand and Colin bell. Always rows of empty seats when they send them backSo, let’s go with the match has sold out.
So where have 1000 tickets, yes 1000 tickets, come from?
Personally I can’t ever see 1000 City fans listing their tickets on the ticket exchange before a match? No chance!
So are some of those 1000 tickets returns form the 9 official ticket touting websites?
If they are, those ticket never sold, and were returned to the club, if the rumour of how that happens is correct?
Going back to my other question?
Haven’t we got 1000 fans who will buy those tickets?
If not, and after nearly 15 years of continual success, 2nd in the PL, fighting for the title, Pep, Haaland, etc, that is very poor and worrying.
Who has more holidays. You or Indaparkside lol?I’m in Germany for the Xmas markets - listed mine and it sold quickly too.