Seat Counters 25/26

mcfc315 said:
Based on the sales so far, would any of the experienced seat counters expect ST holders/members to buy additional tickets on Friday?
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I think there will be, still expecting a further allocation too, that could come after the criteria is supposed to drop to season ticket holders getting an extra 2
 
gingerprince said:
Safe Standing seats are now located at the back of level 5 at Wembley. These are the cheapest in the stadium.
" the back of blocks 532 to 547 are classed as safe-standing areas."

can anyone just clarify if "back of level 5" means
all the Category 5 seats are safe standing and all
Category 4 seats are regular seats in these blocks.

or, does it mean the back section of Category 5 are safe standing & front section of Category 5
are regular seats? Thx
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Theres a few rows of level 5 cat 5 seats that are not safe standing. we got seats in row 12.
 
EastMidlandsBlue said:
If you genuinely want a section that creates atmosphere, you have to make it accessible to the people who actually generate it, lads in their late teens and 20s, and they’re not the ones who are going to pay £97.

If the section was in the £97 safe standing bit, it would of been full of FOC's like me.

It’s not about entitlement, it’s about understanding who actually drives the atmosphere in games. You can’t say you want noise and then structure it in a way that prices out the very group most likely to create it.
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The cheapest seats at Wembley are now safe standing at the rear of level 5.

The 'seats' in this area extend across the entire rear of City's end. They are accessible and the most affordable to the 'lads' who are most likely to be singers.

Right under the roof at the back gives the best chance for sound to boom out.

On this basis and if atmosphere generation is the priority, is this where the 1894 atmosphere grouo are encouraging or arranging their 'members' to congregate?

Like the back of City's new North Stand, Wembley is similar. Are our singers going to make the most of this?
 
Bert Swift said:
The cheapest seats at Wembley are now safe standing at the rear of level 5.

The 'seats' in this area extend across the entire rear of City's end. They are accessible and the most affordable to the 'lads' who are most likely to be singers.

Right under the roof at the back gives the best chance for sound to boom out.

On this basis and if atmosphere generation is the priority, is this where the 1894 atmosphere grouo are encouraging or arranging their 'members' to congregate?

Like the back of City's new North Stand, Wembley is similar. Are our singers going to make the most of this?
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Do we know how many rows are safe standing? Trying to aim for this area when my window open
 
Bert Swift said:
The cheapest seats at Wembley are now safe standing at the rear of level 5.

The 'seats' in this area extend across the entire rear of City's end. They are accessible and the most affordable to the 'lads' who are most likely to be singers.

Right under the roof at the back gives the best chance for sound to boom out.

On this basis and if atmosphere generation is the priority, is this where the 1894 atmosphere grouo are encouraging or arranging their 'members' to congregate?

Like the back of City's new North Stand, Wembley is similar. Are our singers going to make the most of this?
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No, 1894 at the bottom behind the goal
 
Matty M24blue said:
There’s at least 1800 left. Row 16 and above.

Do hope people buying these seats realise people are going to stand and watch the game. Had numerous occasions at Wembley being told to sit.
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Nice one!

Yeah had the same experience! Never know what to expect with Wembley lol
 
EastMidlandsBlue said:
If you genuinely want a section that creates atmosphere, you have to make it accessible to the people who actually generate it, lads in their late teens and 20s, and they’re not the ones who are going to pay £97.

If the section was in the £97 safe standing bit, it would of been full of FOC's like me.

It’s not about entitlement, it’s about understanding who actually drives the atmosphere in games. You can’t say you want noise and then structure it in a way that prices out the very group most likely to create it.
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I don’t disagree with the first bit, but you have to play the hand you’re dealt by Wembley / the FA.

On the second point, there are plenty of lads in their 30s, 40s and 50s who generate just as much noise as anyone in their 20s. Reducing it to “young = loud, older = quiet” is lazy.

It’s a final and everyone should be up for it like the 2011 - 2014 trips there. But the reality is we’re not that hopeful, hungry fanbase anymore and Arsenal as bad as I rate their fans, will be bang up for it. The last two FA Cup finals proved it. We were outsung. The only time in the last few years we clearly had the edge atmosphere wise at Wembley was the 2023 final because we scored in 12 seconds. As a fanbase we’re now reactive, so when we are not winning, without constant songs driving from the back of the stand it falls flat and that’s exactly what’s happened and will happen again.

An 1894 block is a great idea and I back most of what they do. They try and sing regardless of what’s happening on the pitch and that's exactly what we need BUT they have chosen to sit in the area where it’s hardest for noise to spread, to save £22 while also preventing others with potentially more points from getting those cheaper seats. I can guarantee if the cheaper seats were at the back of the stand they would have used their access to secure the block there - you can't deny that. That decision is not what that group claims to represent.
 
pride in battle said:
No, 1894 at the bottom behind the goal
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Why?

Those seats are much more expensive !

1894 are concerned about pricing yet have they decided not to take up the cheapest, safe standing and try and create more noise in level 5?

Lower down on level 1 at Wembley did not work well v Palace last May. It seems to be a struggle too at The Etihad in the split, lower level South Stand.

There seems to be reluctance to congregate in those areas where fans traditionally got together to make the most noise, i.e. at the back, under the roof. Why do you think this is ?
 
FootballSense said:
Why?

Those seats are much more expensive !

1894 are concerned about pricing yet have they decided not to take up the cheapest, safe standing and try and create more noise in level 5?

Lower down on level 1 at Wembley did not work well v Palace last May. It seems to be a struggle too at The Etihad in the split, lower level South Stand.

There seems to be reluctance to congregate in those areas where fans traditionally got together to make the most noise, i.e. at the back, under the roof. Why do you think this is ?
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People need to remember that nobody even knew there was any safe standing at the back of Level 5 before the 1894 list went into the club. The deadline for that list going in was last Monday which was 9 days ago and the sales criteria wasn't even announced until late last week.

Not only that but I pointed out on this thread earlier today that the 1894 singing sections have almost always been at the front of Level 1 and while it's a valid point that the noise doesn't tend to travel as well from there, that's where the section has usually been located because it makes it easier for displays. I also pointed out that in my ideal world I would absolutely have the singing section at the back of Level 5 but as those tickets are way cheaper than the so called "cheap" ones 1894 have got reserved for this match, surely those pontificating about 1894 boxing off cheap tickets will be even more apoplectic if we ringfenced hundreds of the cheapest seats in the stadium up top.

Fact is that you can't please everyone but if anyone wants to organise their own unofficial singing section in the safe standing section at the back of Level 5 then by all means feel free to do so and get spreading the word to as many singers as possible to buy tickets in there. If that further helps the atmosphere in our end then I'm all for it.
 
mamaged to get the seat next to the 6 yesterday, just one left at 10am tomorrow, hopefully can get near us at lest,

safe standing level 5.
 
M18CTID said:
People need to remember that nobody even knew there was any safe standing at the back of Level 5 before the 1894 list went into the club. The deadline for that list going in was last Monday which was 9 days ago and the sales criteria wasn't even announced until late last week.

Not only that but I pointed out on this thread earlier today that the 1894 singing sections have almost always been at the front of Level 1 and while it's a valid point that the noise doesn't tend to travel as well from there, that's where the section has usually been located because it makes it easier for displays. I also pointed out that in my ideal world I would absolutely have the singing section at the back of Level 5 but as those tickets are way cheaper than the so called "cheap" ones 1894 have got reserved for this match, surely those pontificating about 1894 boxing off cheap tickets will be even more apoplectic if we ringfenced hundreds of the cheapest seats in the stadium up top.

Fact is that you can't please everyone but if anyone wants to organise their own unofficial singing section in the safe standing section at the back of Level 5 then by all means feel free to do so and get spreading the word to as many singers as possible to buy tickets in there. If that further helps the atmosphere in our end then I'm all for it.
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I wonder if all the Palace fans were furious at the Holmesdale lot for taking these rows last year? Certainly didn't stop them making any noise
 
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