Seat Counters 25/26

I'll counter the positivity. I don't think we will sell as many as expected today. There will be a lot left tomorrow 9k+ imo. The members will eat into that but not enough. I wouldn't be surprised if more criteria is required after Friday.
I think you’ll be surprised tomorrow…I’ve got 4 and getting another 4 tomorrow as waiting on one junior member. I know a number that are similar…I reckon they will be gone by close tomorrow but we shall see!
 
I'll counter the positivity. I don't think we will sell as many as expected today. There will be a lot left tomorrow 9k+ imo. The members will eat into that but not enough. I wouldn't be surprised if more criteria is required after Friday.
Agree that there will probably be 9k or so left for tomorrow but I still think they could all get gobbled up tomorrow. I reckon there will be a few thousand or so in the queue when the first window opens to those members who bought tickets for either Brentford or Newcastle, and the afternoon will be a bloodbath. For me, the additional criteria will kick in if we get an extra allocation of tickets
 
We've become obsessed by tifos and displays over atmosphere IMO.

Much prefer noise to some waving flags and a banner that is there for 2 minutes pre match.
Saw a Leeds fan post on X about their atmosphere against Forest the other Friday night, saying something like ‘We don’t want or need any displays, tifosis, light shows, bands, drums, clappers, tourists, half+half scarves, knobheads with their phones out or silly songs. We just sing and chant and make our own atmosphere’.
 
The atmosphere will take care of itself in a final.
We’ve only had two really good atmospheres at Wembley since 2014 against Sunderland.

Arsenal in 2018 and United in 2023.

Other than that, the other 21 games have mostly been terrible from us for atmosphere. Forest last year wasn’t too bad, but we had loads of empty seats and it wasn’t a final. The final against Palace was the worst atmosphere from us of all our visits.

Even Watford in 2019 were out singing us at times in the second half when they were getting hammered.
 
Agree that there will probably be 9k or so left for tomorrow but I still think they could all get gobbled up tomorrow. I reckon there will be a few thousand or so in the queue when the first window opens to those members who bought tickets for either Brentford or Newcastle, and the afternoon will be a bloodbath. For me, the additional criteria will kick in if we get an extra allocation of tickets
I think a lot of people are fed up with the state of the country and just want a good day out as a form of escapism. Excitement for this game seems to be huge. I have bumped into a few City fans in the last few days and everyone seems up for it. Perhaps it’s just timing with the winter coming to the end. Perhaps we just all hate Arsenal, Perhaps we know that it may be Pep’s last final, I am surprised by the response to be honest. The Liverpool win seems to have galvanised us as well.
 
Saw a Leeds fan post on X about their atmosphere against Forest the other Friday night, saying something like ‘We don’t want or need any displays, tifosis, light shows, bands, drums, clappers, tourists, half+half scarves, knobheads with their phones out or silly songs. We just sing and chant and make our own atmosphere’.
No team or player ever improved their performance by looking at a flag or banner. Noise is what can influence things.

Don't get me going on light shows. Total and utter waste of time and money.

I agree with you about WEmbley atmospheres too. I'd partly attribute that to Wembley fatique but I remain convinced that it is also down to the sheer range of songs we introduce. Sometimes Wembley is like a microcosm of the Etihad. You've got "Ederson and Ake" going off here, "Bernardooooo", there, "Pablo Zabaleta" in the other corner and nothing catches on. Teams like Watford and Sunderland only had about 3 songs.
 
Saw a Leeds fan post on X about their atmosphere against Forest the other Friday night, saying something like ‘We don’t want or need any displays, tifosis, light shows, bands, drums, clappers, tourists, half+half scarves, knobheads with their phones out or silly songs. We just sing and chant and make our own atmosphere’.
Leeds have the best atmosphere in England too.

Miles better than the overrated Nigel’s at Palace.
 
We’ve only had two really good atmospheres at Wembley since 2014 against Sunderland.

Arsenal in 2018 and United in 2023.

Other than that, the other 21 games have mostly been terrible from us for atmosphere. Forest last year wasn’t too bad, but we had loads of empty seats and it wasn’t a final. The final against Palace was the worst atmosphere from us of all our visits.

Even Watford in 2019 were out singing us at times in the second half when they were getting hammered.

It was really disappointing last year. Palace had been excellent against Villa and I thought we'd raise our game. 1894 even coordinated seats together to get something going but it never took off and Palace completely destroyed us. Considering it was only 1-0 and it was our only chance of a trophy it was pretty disappointing. Forest had been okay considering we didn't sell out - we got ahead early though so maybe we're turning into fair weather fans.
 
Saw a Leeds fan post on X about their atmosphere against Forest the other Friday night, saying something like ‘We don’t want or need any displays, tifosis, light shows, bands, drums, clappers, tourists, half+half scarves, knobheads with their phones out or silly songs. We just sing and chant and make our own atmosphere’.
Leeds fans can say what they want but if they actually became any good again for any period of time then it's absolutely nailed on that their fanbase will become gentrified in much the same way as has happened to all the other top teams. People forget they weren't actually smashing it atmosphere-wise even when they were challenging at the top end of the Premier League in the late 90s/early 00s. They're decent these days in the main but if they spend 5 or 6 seasons on the bounce in the top flight there will be a drop-off in their atmosphere. We had all this when Stoke came up in 2008 and for the first few seasons it was a good ground for atmosphere but it eventually went to shit.

In any case, for over a decade between 2006 and 2018 they often struggled to more than half fill their stadium. Their home attendances for a perceived big club were - by and large - fucking pathetic. It's only when Bielsa turned up and totally galvanised their fanbase that they started to fill their stadium again. In fact, I recall one game from what I think was his first season as Leeds manager where they were playing Newcastle at home and the commentators were saying it was Elland Road's first capacity crowd for 6 and a half years. Fickle sheep-shagging Yorkshire cunts.
 
Saw a Leeds fan post on X about their atmosphere against Forest the other Friday night, saying something like ‘We don’t want or need any displays, tifosis, light shows, bands, drums, clappers, tourists, half+half scarves, knobheads with their phones out or silly songs. We just sing and chant and make our own atmosphere’.
They’re lucky in many respects though.

Playing in their old traditional stadium, long established areas for noise, the importance of fans and atmosphere appreciated by their board, a small capacity which is easy to fill, meaning it’s not partially populated with football tourists and half and half scarves, fans with a point to prove in the stands, as they’re not great on the pitch. Its not unlike Maine Road between 1998 and 2003, when we had one of the best atmospheres in the country.

Yet for all the bollocks that they spout, they would bite the hand off an owner coming in and investing serious money, even with all the bullshit that goes with it.
 
It was really disappointing last year. Palace had been excellent against Villa and I thought we'd raise our game. 1894 even coordinated seats together to get something going but it never took off and Palace completely destroyed us. Considering it was only 1-0 and it was our only chance of a trophy it was pretty disappointing. Forest had been okay considering we didn't sell out - we got ahead early though so maybe we're turning into fair weather fans.
With respect to the Nigels, the noise they made was incredible, they were up for it that day and we didn’t stand much of a chance.
 
Right so I've done another little cross check with sales from the Forest FA Cup Semi Final, given our current position in the criteria is 8,000 points with no cup scheme.

Forest Semi Final

10th April 1pm - 10,000 points + No Cup Scheme - 17,782 Left (+ Roughly 7,000 not on sale)

15th April 3pm - All Matchday Members - 5,829 Left (+ Roughly 7,000 not on sale)


This means that about 12,000 tickets sold between our current position and the matchday members window. Given there is more demand for this game I'd expect this number to be greater on this occasion.

As we currently have around 11,600 tickets left I'm going to predict that this will sell out in the 1pm window tomorrow (Apart from the expensive Level 2 Seats).
 
Right so I've done another little cross check with sales from the Forest FA Cup Semi Final, given our current position in the criteria is 8,000 points with no cup scheme.

Forest Semi Final

10th April 1pm - 10,000 points + No Cup Scheme - 17,782 Left (+ Roughly 7,000 not on sale)

15th April 3pm - All Matchday Members - 5,829 Left (+ Roughly 7,000 not on sale)


This means that about 12,000 tickets sold between our current position and the matchday members window. Given there is more demand for this game I'd expect this number to be greater on this occasion.

As we currently have around 11,600 tickets left I'm going to predict that this will sell out in the 1pm window tomorrow (Apart from the expensive Level 2 Seats).
Top research that mate, and reinforces the viewpoint that members take up a lot of the slack
 
I know Leeds fans who think their atmosphere has gone downhill. I see it as one of the best in the League but sometimes it’s quiet at Elland Road for most of the game and then they all video themselves signing “I Predict a Riot”. It’s not much better than, “Narf Londaaan foreveeer”.
 
Right so I've done another little cross check with sales from the Forest FA Cup Semi Final, given our current position in the criteria is 8,000 points with no cup scheme.

Forest Semi Final

10th April 1pm - 10,000 points + No Cup Scheme - 17,782 Left (+ Roughly 7,000 not on sale)

15th April 3pm - All Matchday Members - 5,829 Left (+ Roughly 7,000 not on sale)


This means that about 12,000 tickets sold between our current position and the matchday members window. Given there is more demand for this game I'd expect this number to be greater on this occasion.

As we currently have around 11,600 tickets left I'm going to predict that this will sell out in the 1pm window tomorrow (Apart from the expensive Level 2 Seats).
This is the sort of elite level information we have come to see as routine from our stable of expert seat counters. Superb stuff.
 
I know Leeds fans who think their atmosphere has gone downhill. I see it as one of the best in the League but sometimes it’s quiet at Elland Road for most of the game and then they all video themselves signing “I Predict a Riot”. It’s not much better than, “Narf Londaaan foreveeer”.
To be fair to Leeds fans, give me Kaiser Chiefs over that AI-generated guff from the Tarquin twats any day of the week!
 

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