Seat Counters 25/26

It’s more if we’re within a goal, drawing or winning narrowly I meant. It didn’t happen against Newcastle you’re right, but there’s been champions league knockout games before where I could swear sales spiked after a positive away result, with the game still in the balance.

I don’t think it’ll be enough to get us to a sellout, they will need general sale I think for that.
PSG 2015/16 season. Sales for the home leg were slow, and a lot of that was because fans were unhappy about the ticket prices. We drew 2-2 away in the first leg and after that there was a huge surge in sales immediately followig that result - it ended up being a sell out
 
You’ve been normalised to think £50-£70 tickets are fine. That’s what we used to pay for a cup final ticket, and we’re now paying it for home games. People have less disposable income these days, as you’ve alluded to.

If the ticket prices were ok, they wouldn’t be pricing out people that are “skint” would they? Where’s logic in that?

If they were £30/£40/£50 for this, based on quality of seat, rather than the £47/£55/£70 it is, we’d be close to a sellout already.
A Lot of people i've spoken to have said the Real Madrid ticket prices are okay, if they were £10/£15 cheaper it still wouldn't be cheap enough, so how low do you go ?
 
A Lot of people i've spoken to have said the Real Madrid ticket prices are okay, if they were £10/£15 cheaper it still wouldn't be cheap enough, so how low do you go ?
£10/£15 cheaper and you’ll get more buying naturally. How many, I don’t know but would be a few hundred more at least I guess, possibly ranging into 1,000-2,000 extra who would draw a line at £40-£45.

The cheaper you come down the more will buy. The £35 tickets for Fulham sold out in their level 3 block they returned. The rest of the South Stand L3 was 1/3 empty at £50.
 
25 years or so ago the club had a simple statement that was a genuine appreciation from the directors regarding the backing we had given the team through the dark times.

'Supporting our Supporters'.

It was only a three word slogan, but it summed up in its way the connection we all had in a knd of 'we're all in this together' type of mindset.

That friendliness towards us in those days has long since disappeared, and replaced with such a voracious appetite for money they are actively alienating many of us.

I find myself in a weird conflict at the moment. I support the team, but dislike the club, if that makes sense. Well, it does to me, and I can't help the way I feel. If that offends anyone, so be it.

'Screwing our Supporters' is probably a fair rewrite of that old slogan, in lots of different ways today.
Not that long ago I genuinely believed we had the best people running the club — owners who respected City’s local identity and the relationship with its fans. We saw supporter friendly initiatives like subsidised travel for FA Cup Finals and Champions League Finals. That probably lasted until Covid.

The moment that cracked for me was the ESL. Getting into bed with clubs that had spent years trying to finish us, even letting Joel Glazer issue a statement on our own website. When we pulled out first, I told myself we were different. Looking back, that was naive. I sometimes wonder if clubs decided there and then that if they couldn’t have the ultimate cash cow, then they would screw traditional fans in other ways.

Since then the pursuit of matchday revenue has been relentless. The Real Madrid semi-final was the breaking point — fans priced out, tourists filling seats, Blues walking away, some never returning.

We saw it in the treble season against Arsenal too -no ticket returns available, yet plenty packaged up in expensive hospitality.

Now the new stand is being built and the priority is obvious — more revenue.

The irony is that the authentic atmosphere they’re eroding is exactly what attracts football tourists in the first place.

I read yesterday thatRoel de Vries is leaving. Maybe it’s unrelated. But you’d hope it signals a rethink and hopefully a change in direction / priorities.
 
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Not that long ago I genuinely believed we had the best people running the club — owners who respected City’s local identity and the relationship with its fans. We saw supporter friendly initiatives like subsidised travel for FA Cup Finals and Champions League Finals. That probably lasted until Covid.

The moment that cracked for me was the ESL. Getting into bed with clubs that had spent years trying to finish us, even letting Joel Glazer issue a statement on our own website. When we pulled out first, I told myself we were different. Looking back, that was naive. I sometimes wonder if clubs decided there and then that if they couldn’t have the ultimate cash cow, then they would screw traditional fans in other ways.

Since then the pursuit of matchday revenue has been relentless. The Real Madrid semi-final was the breaking point — fans priced out, tourists filling seats, Blues walking away, some never returning.

We saw it in the treble season against Arsenal too -no ticket returns available, yet plenty packaged up in expensive hospitality.

Now the new stand is being built and the priority is obvious — more revenue.

The irony is that the authentic atmosphere they’re eroding is exactly what attracts football tourists in the first place.

I read yesterday thatRoel de Vries is leaving. Maybe it’s unrelated. But you’d hope it signals a rethink and hopefully a change in direction / priorities.
Of course clubs are looking at more revenue, with PSR, financial fair play plus City paying the likes of Haaland 100's of thousands a week, its a vicious circle, keep fans happy and keep the number crunchers happy
 
That’s correct but two years ago people would be flapping to try and get a ticket, now we’re wondering if it will sell and when.
It’s clear huge numbers of season ticket holders, just aren’t interested in attending champions league games. Barely anyone where i sit is attending the Madrid game
 
Well done City on alowing extra tickets to season ticket holders. I think they've been pretty on it with their sales criteria this year overall.
 
Opened the criteria for Madrid at home up to an extra 2 tickets for season ticket holders
I also recieved that email from the club. However, it's the first I've had regarding the Madrid game. Are the club doing what it should be doing and emailing everything to everyone? Because I'm hearing from different people on here that they've not had emails from the club for this n that.
 
It’s clear huge numbers of season ticket holders, just aren’t interested in attending champions league games. Barely anyone where i sit is attending the Madrid game
Last season City submitted data for the CL Group games to City Matters last season showing that a lot of seasoncard holders were not going to group games. 20k out of 37k were going.

We also know that last season City had 140,000 matcday memberships so your matchday experience is likely generalised around the ground i.e., matchday fans are taking the place of seasoncard holders. That has pluses and minuses associated with it.

I wouldn't put the explanation as 'just aren't interested'. I would say that there are a lot of fans who can just afford a season ticket but can't afford the Cup tickets on top, and the travel. And there's also a lot of fans who live outside Greater Manchester who can't get home after a midweek game, or don't fancy driving back home in the small hours when they have children, and work next day. You are suggesting fans don't like CL football, I suggest its awkward for a number of reasons. The data on season ticket numbers are a matter of fact, but the reasons behind the numbers are a matter of opinion.
 

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