Semi tickets go on sale?

birchvillablue said:
squirtyflower said:
birchvillablue said:
So you are on the cup scheme lol?
indeed

i have always gone to the cup games so it saves the hassle of booking tickets, and before the online purchases saved £2 a ticket
there were times i was paying a £2 booking fee for a £1 kids ticket, how stupid was that? then i joined the cup scheme and that stopped

So what's with the 2 ticket jibe?
it was on something like the second page of this thread
 
squirtyflower said:
jma said:
Vienna_70 said:
Our cup scheme differs from the rags' in that SC holders are not FORCED to join.

And members of our CS are rewarded for attending the early - sometimes unattractive - rounds of the cups, which is only right, IMHO.

Scenario 1 - Fred went home and away for ten years. For the last five years he has just had a season ticket and can't make many aways. He hasn't joined the cup schemes because it doesn't fit his circumstances and means potentially shelling out an extra hundred quid every couple of months if they progress in all three. Something that he isn't comfortable with. Anyway, he struggles to make some midweek games due to work so it would be a bit of a waste.

Scenario Two - Justin has never been to a City game two years ago but managed to get his hands on a couple of season tickets recently. He takes mates and clients on the other one for a jolly good trip to see 'The Champions of England' who are jolly good and win a lot. Justin, his mate and his clients like watching a team that win a lot. He was bang into getting on the cup schemes as it means more trips to the football. He would never dream of going away and doesn't fancy going to watch a team that doesn't win a lot.



Justin is guaranteed a ticket. Fred isn't. Justice?

I, and many others, are only on the cup scheme because we are blackmailed into it through the fear of not getting tickets for games like this. Thousands of people who are on it would not go anywhere near it and would do what people always did - go to the cup games they can make and that fit their circumstances - if it wasn't for that fear.
oh for pete's sake

is Justin a right wing nutjob too?

Fred's gone West

people join the cup scheme through fear, not because they want to watch City?

So people don't want to see the Champions now because it is only a cup game. Have they been brainwashed by all the Premier League and Chpions Leaguempropogandaninto thinking the FA Cup is shit.

For many who want to see us play, the cup scheme is convenient and cuts out on money and time wasted booking tickets.

From what I have read in this thread loyal Blues with enough loyalty points will be able to get a ticket anyway and I hope this is the case.
 
squirtyflower said:
birchvillablue said:
squirtyflower said:
indeed

i have always gone to the cup games so it saves the hassle of booking tickets, and before the online purchases saved £2 a ticket
there were times i was paying a £2 booking fee for a £1 kids ticket, how stupid was that? then i joined the cup scheme and that stopped

So what's with the 2 ticket jibe?
it was on something like the second page of this thread

You wind up merchant, had me there
 
There were clear warning signs for this 2 years ago - and scheme membership has been needed for the relevant aways for the last 2 seasons.

Fans in the 11-14k bracket are likely to have been in the schemes for 10 years, and if fans have dropped out of schemes to to mid-week games the one they are most likely to stay in is the FA Cup one.

The FA Cup scheme has cost £72.50 for the last 2 seasons - probably cheaper than one ticket for the final if you take the mean cost.
 
OJ Blue said:
ballinio said:
OJ Blue said:
Why bother with loyalty points at all?

Face facts the cup scheme is a way to force blues to buy tickets for matches they don't want/can commit to. We took the piss out of United fans being made to buy tickets for shit games, now look at us, modern football I'm afraid.

For those saying it's 'fair' don't chat shit, because it isn't. It's elitist and completely panders to the JCL'S with deeper pockets, which are the type of 'megastore daytripper' fan the club are looking to attract.

Fans that have seen hundreds of games fucked over.

Fans who tipped in the dark days of Ball, Neal and Clarke have been shafted by the club they love, well played City.
you`re talking utter shit.

Care to expand son?
utd fans were made to join the cup scheme as a condition of their season ticket, we have not.
We have 36,000 season tickets holders , the club needed to sort out some sort of loyalty system , its not perfect but i dont think there is a perfect system. The much lauded Hamburg game , taught the club a lesson, it was almost a disaster, you cant have free for all , i saw people buying ten tickets that day, they were touts.
If you`ve got a high number of loyalty points it shows you go to a lot of games, most likely you`ll go to most cup games too, the cup scheme was designed for people who go to most games, pandering to jcl`s is miles away from the truth.
As for `megastore daytrippers`, we are getting more fans & at Champions league games you do see a few out of towners about but generally city fans are the same fans that have been there for years.
The days of neal, ball & clarke were`nt the best , i was there & i dont feel like i`ve been fucked over.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
squirtyflower said:
jma said:
Scenario 1 - Fred went home and away for ten years. For the last five years he has just had a season ticket and can't make many aways. He hasn't joined the cup schemes because it doesn't fit his circumstances and means potentially shelling out an extra hundred quid every couple of months if they progress in all three. Something that he isn't comfortable with. Anyway, he struggles to make some midweek games due to work so it would be a bit of a waste.

Scenario Two - Justin has never been to a City game two years ago but managed to get his hands on a couple of season tickets recently. He takes mates and clients on the other one for a jolly good trip to see 'The Champions of England' who are jolly good and win a lot. Justin, his mate and his clients like watching a team that win a lot. He was bang into getting on the cup schemes as it means more trips to the football. He would never dream of going away and doesn't fancy going to watch a team that doesn't win a lot.



Justin is guaranteed a ticket. Fred isn't. Justice?

I, and many others, are only on the cup scheme because we are blackmailed into it through the fear of not getting tickets for games like this. Thousands of people who are on it would not go anywhere near it and would do what people always did - go to the cup games they can make and that fit their circumstances - if it wasn't for that fear.
oh for pete's sake

is Justin a right wing nutjob too?

Fred's gone West

people join the cup scheme through fear, not because they want to watch City?

So people don't want to see the Champions now because it is only a cup game. Have they been brainwashed by all the Premier League and Chpions Leaguempropogandaninto thinking the FA Cup is shit.

For many who want to see us play, the cup scheme is convenient and cuts out on money and time wasted booking tickets.

From what I have read in this thread loyal Blues with enough loyalty points will be able to get a ticket anyway and I hope this is the case.

What else do you call it when people are forced to buy tickets for an unknown amount of games, in the knowledge that there is a high probability that they will not be able to attend some midweek games? All because the club have made it known that they might miss out if they don't.

Or were you always of the opinion, for 30 years, that the season ticket system was fundamentally flawed because it didn't include an attached direct debit for an unknown amount of cup games? I bet you weren't. If you were, then fair enough.
 
squirtyflower said:
jma said:
Vienna_70 said:
Our cup scheme differs from the rags' in that SC holders are not FORCED to join.

And members of our CS are rewarded for attending the early - sometimes unattractive - rounds of the cups, which is only right, IMHO.

Scenario 1 - Fred went home and away for ten years. For the last five years he has just had a season ticket and can't make many aways. He hasn't joined the cup schemes because it doesn't fit his circumstances and means potentially shelling out an extra hundred quid every couple of months if they progress in all three. Something that he isn't comfortable with. Anyway, he struggles to make some midweek games due to work so it would be a bit of a waste.

Scenario Two - Justin has never been to a City game two years ago but managed to get his hands on a couple of season tickets recently. He takes mates and clients on the other one for a jolly good trip to see 'The Champions of England' who are jolly good and win a lot. Justin, his mate and his clients like watching a team that win a lot. He was bang into getting on the cup schemes as it means more trips to the football. He would never dream of going away and doesn't fancy going to watch a team that doesn't win a lot.



Justin is guaranteed a ticket. Fred isn't. Justice?

I, and many others, are only on the cup scheme because we are blackmailed into it through the fear of not getting tickets for games like this. Thousands of people who are on it would not go anywhere near it and would do what people always did - go to the cup games they can make and that fit their circumstances - if it wasn't for that fear.
oh for pete's sake

is Justin a right wing nutjob too?

Fred's gone West

people join the cup scheme through fear, not because they want to watch City?
I've got a feeling he's making some not so subtle class war point.

Fred sounds like he wears a flat cap to me.
 
Quite simple

Join the cup scheme and you get priority

Don't join the cup cup scheme and you don't

There is nothing underhand by the club as it was clearly stated before the start of the season. It is the same as the Ajax game and everyone whinging. If you weren't on the Euro cup scheme you didn't get priority.

Sure it is unfair on some people but why not moan at the start of the season when they clearly state the benefits of joining the cup scheme? I would put the number of brand new fans with ST's under 100. The majority will be fans who have been going to games for years on a one off basis but now it is harder to get tickets that way decided to sign up for the season. Why shouldn't they get a cup final ticket after making that commitment?
 
The cup scheme is in no way fair or at all necessary. Its just a guaranteed way of making money, the people who actually want to go to every cup game anyway would still buy tickets regardless, the people who maybe cant afford to go to every cup game are forced to sign up through fear of missing out on tickets to the semi's or final. Then the johnny come lately mob are all rubbing their hands at the fact that they are guaranteed a ticket as long as they know how to set up a direct debit. If the club is going to operate a LOYALTY points system then stick to it, forget schemes etc...the word scheme itself tells you all need to know about its purpose, the clubs way to scheme money from you. Loyalty points should be the only way tickets are dished out, just like they are for the rest of the season, if you join a scheme see it as a way of saving yourself a telephone call or a trip to the ground to purchase your cup tickets, that can be your reward, not jumping to the top of the ticket list.

P.S. I knew the crack before the season started yes, but just because it was in black and white or a rule or a policy doesn't actually mean its fair, so stick them excuses up your derriere.
 
You could come up with Scenarios 1 - 999. Different fans who would feel they had been unfairly treated by the ticketing policy.
 

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