Sergio Aguero - 2016/17 performances

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The officials yesterday were useless. The linesman in front of me was no help to ref at all. He'd wait to see which way the ref was going to give it then signal. West Ham are a big physical side and got away with repeatedly fouling our forwards yesterday particularly Sterling and yet the world thanks to the Man Utd trolls are talking about Aguero's elbow. He should not have done it, but it's a reaction to being held, and doesn't connect either.

If the FA ban Aguero then what about Costa, Rooney, Fellaini etc who do this routinely?

We were up against this in 2010-11 and it has started already. They can't stop us on the pitch, so they'll try any other way they can.

Well said and totally agree
 
The 'in the flow of the game' doesn't matter. It's about intent or perceived intent. If they believe there was intent, he's in trouble.
Now, if they think it's an arm gesture having just had his arm held - i.e. a 'get off my arm' type gesture, he might just about be ok. If they think it's anything more, he'll get a ban.

I think he's put his arm back to stop Reid coming in close, but it's dangerous to do that, and it does look intentional from some angles. From other angles it looks a lot less intentional, and Reid without doubt feigns where any contact occurred. I think it's a 50/50 call IF the ref didn't see it.

I suspect the ref has seen it and made a split second call that the two were tussling and it was argy bargy (pardon the pun) from both players.
100% the ref saw it. Whether he says he saw it or not is an entirely different matter though. We will find out exactly how much of a shithouse Marriner is in the next day or two.
 
I understand it for off the ball incidents that happen nowhere near the ref. Like a player just going over and smacking another in retaliation. But for things happening in the flow of the match as has been said, if you pulled everyone up we would be handing out retrospectives to 10 players every week.

And this is the point in all of it. Whether or not people think it was a deliberate elbow is irrelevant. The point is, Andre Marriner was looking right at the incident when it happened. Retrospective action is there for the ref not having eyes in the back of his head. Aguero got away with one two years ago when he put in a tackle on Noble but the FA rightly took no action because it was part of the on-ball action . If the FA charge Aguero then it is a disgrace. Not because of what happened but because it would be a betrayal of the FA's own processes.
 
And this is the point in all of it. Whether or not people think it was a deliberate elbow is irrelevant. The point is, Andre Marriner was looking right at the incident when it happened. Retrospective action is there for the ref not having eyes in the back of his head. Aguero got away with one two years ago when he put in a tackle on Noble but the FA rightly took no action because it was part of the on-ball action . If the FA charge Aguero then it is a disgrace. Not because of what happened but because it would be a betrayal of the FA's own processes.
It's nothing new though is it? Wasn't the ref looking straight at the incident when Adebayor "stamped" on van persie? If it's something the FA want to punish, I reckon they just advise the ref to say they didn't see it.
 
The thing that might save him is the fact that the best (most clear) view makes the best case for a yellow rather than a red.

But the papers have splashed the worst view all over the back pages so the FA will probably ban him
 
We were up against this in 2010-11 and it has started already. They can't stop us on the pitch, so they'll try any other way they can.
It was the late Winter/early Spring of the 2011/12 season when a series of seriously questionable (and key) refereeing decisions were made in united's favour, most notably in relation to Ashley Young, which seemed to tip the title race back in their favour. I'm not one for casually calling into question levels of corruption in officials, but there was something seriously not right about that period.
 
The days of panicking because one player isn't available have gone. The manager will go to OT with a match winning plan and a team more than capable of getting a result. Have faith in Pep and relax.
 
The thing that might save him is the fact that the best (most clear) view makes the best case for a yellow rather than a red.

But the papers have splashed the worst view all over the back pages so the FA will probably ban him
Even if the ref says he didn't see it, he could still say it would only have been a yellow. After all A&E only got a yellow for what was clearly a deliberate elbow on Zabaleta.
 
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