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Sergio Aguero
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citymad said:CaliforniaBlue said:Proelia said:Why would i want to play one of the most boring sports ever created
I assume you're not a cricket fan.
As for baseball, it's only boring if you don't understand it.
I understand it pretty well and it is by far the worst and most boring sports ever.
Baseball is great to watch, far from a boring sport.
As for American football (gridiron) that is more than boring, gladiator chess I call it.
AshtonBlueMooner
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I've just read the last few pages and can't believe how spoilt some of you have now become. We have one of the top 5 players in the world playing for us, 10 goals in the last 11 games or something like that and you're moaning how wasteful he is. Think back to Wayne 'Bertie' Biggins, Trevor Christie, Mark Lillis and the like. We would have been lucky to see 10 Or 11 goals for our leading goal scorer at the end of the season and that was in Division 2(old) most of the time. Football is about opinions but I can't believe some of the shit I read on here.......... In fact, yes I can, it's pretty standard nowadays.
gmckennasell
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AshtonBlueMooner said:I've just read the last few pages and can't believe how spoilt some of you have now become. We have one of the top 5 players in the world playing for us, 10 goals in the last 11 games or something like that and you're moaning how wasteful he is. Think back to Wayne 'Bertie' Biggins, Trevor Christie, Mark Lillis and the like. We would have been lucky to see 10 Or 11 goals for our leading goal scorer at the end of the season and that was in Division 2(old) most of the time. Football is about opinions but I can't believe some of the shit I read on here.......... In fact, yes I can, it's pretty standard nowadays.
dont agree with mark lillis , a great player for the level we were at , but 100% agree re-aguero , do some of our supporters really appreciate what we are lucky enough to watch at the etihad , i have mates who are lifelong wigan,burnley,southport etc supporters and they will NEVER , see their team playing at our level , a bit of perspective is required.
NorCalBlue
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It makes me laugh when a top striker misses a good chance and the commentator says something like "you don't expect X to miss from there", when in fact you should expect X to miss, whoever he is. Yes, Aguero's missed a few good chances in the last few games, but that's normal for a top striker. What was abnormal was the period he had before that where almost every chance he had seemed to go in.
I think highlights shows and YouTube are to blame for our skewed perspective (as well as the occasional purple patch that top strikers go through) because they mostly show the successes rather than the failures, making us believe that the success rate is much higher than it actually is. Even the deadliest strikers in the world miss a lot more shots than they score.
Consider the following numbers from league and CL this season(rounded to the nearest 0.5);
Negredo 3.5 shots/goal
Cavani 4.0 shots/goal
Aguero, Suarez, Bale 4.5 shots/goal
Messi, Ibrahimavich 5.0 shots/goal
Ronaldo 5.5 shots/goal
Tevez 11.5 shots/goal
I think you have to make allowances for players who take more long shots, like Tevez and possibly Ronaldo, but it shows that even the best miss a lot more than they score. So I expect Aguero to continue to miss more decent chances then he scores, but he's still one of the best, because that's what the best do.
I think highlights shows and YouTube are to blame for our skewed perspective (as well as the occasional purple patch that top strikers go through) because they mostly show the successes rather than the failures, making us believe that the success rate is much higher than it actually is. Even the deadliest strikers in the world miss a lot more shots than they score.
Consider the following numbers from league and CL this season(rounded to the nearest 0.5);
Negredo 3.5 shots/goal
Cavani 4.0 shots/goal
Aguero, Suarez, Bale 4.5 shots/goal
Messi, Ibrahimavich 5.0 shots/goal
Ronaldo 5.5 shots/goal
Tevez 11.5 shots/goal
I think you have to make allowances for players who take more long shots, like Tevez and possibly Ronaldo, but it shows that even the best miss a lot more than they score. So I expect Aguero to continue to miss more decent chances then he scores, but he's still one of the best, because that's what the best do.
Good post and your right the comments from some posters are ridiculous but there not real fans really anywayAshtonBlueMooner said:I've just read the last few pages and can't believe how spoilt some of you have now become. We have one of the top 5 players in the world playing for us, 10 goals in the last 11 games or something like that and you're moaning how wasteful he is. Think back to Wayne 'Bertie' Biggins, Trevor Christie, Mark Lillis and the like. We would have been lucky to see 10 Or 11 goals for our leading goal scorer at the end of the season and that was in Division 2(old) most of the time. Football is about opinions but I can't believe some of the shit I read on here.......... In fact, yes I can, it's pretty standard nowadays.
Them stats don't prove anything, aguero has had much more simple chances than Negredo and we haven't really seen every match from the other players now have we? I'm just dissapointed at the chances he's missing because I know he's capabale of burying them and he really should be.CaliforniaBlue said:It makes me laugh when a top striker misses a good chance and the commentator says something like "you don't expect X to miss from there", when in fact you should expect X to miss, whoever he is. Yes, Aguero's missed a few good chances in the last few games, but that's normal for a top striker. What was abnormal was the period he had before that where almost every chance he had seemed to go in.
I think highlights shows and YouTube are to blame for our skewed perspective (as well as the occasional purple patch that top strikers go through) because they mostly show the successes rather than the failures, making us believe that the success rate is much higher than it actually is. Even the deadliest strikers in the world miss a lot more shots than they score.
Consider the following numbers from league and CL this season(rounded to the nearest 0.5);
Negredo 3.5 shots/goal
Cavani 4.0 shots/goal
Aguero, Suarez, Bale 4.5 shots/goal
Messi, Ibrahimavich 5.0 shots/goal
Ronaldo 5.5 shots/goal
Tevez 11.5 shots/goal
I think you have to make allowances for players who take more long shots, like Tevez and possibly Ronaldo, but it shows that even the best miss a lot more than they score. So I expect Aguero to continue to miss more decent chances then he scores, but he's still one of the best, because that's what the best do.
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It's fuckin embarrassing isn't it.Probably the same people quoting rawk !Proelia said:Good post and your right the comments from some posters are ridiculous but there not real fans really anywayAshtonBlueMooner said:I've just read the last few pages and can't believe how spoilt some of you have now become. We have one of the top 5 players in the world playing for us, 10 goals in the last 11 games or something like that and you're moaning how wasteful he is. Think back to Wayne 'Bertie' Biggins, Trevor Christie, Mark Lillis and the like. We would have been lucky to see 10 Or 11 goals for our leading goal scorer at the end of the season and that was in Division 2(old) most of the time. Football is about opinions but I can't believe some of the shit I read on here.......... In fact, yes I can, it's pretty standard nowadays.
mscenterh750
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You can add David Cross and David Johnson to that list of strikers!. Lillis was brilliant, him and Gordon Davies were a good partnership.Thenumber1blue said:It's fuckin embarrassing isn't it.Probably the same people quoting rawk !Proelia said:Good post and your right the comments from some posters are ridiculous but there not real fans really anywayAshtonBlueMooner said:I've just read the last few pages and can't believe how spoilt some of you have now become. We have one of the top 5 players in the world playing for us, 10 goals in the last 11 games or something like that and you're moaning how wasteful he is. Think back to Wayne 'Bertie' Biggins, Trevor Christie, Mark Lillis and the like. We would have been lucky to see 10 Or 11 goals for our leading goal scorer at the end of the season and that was in Division 2(old) most of the time. Football is about opinions but I can't believe some of the shit I read on here.......... In fact, yes I can, it's pretty standard nowadays.
Aguero is getting back to his best. Last season was a poor season for him due to injuryteddykgb said:Marvin said:I fear it might take Jovetic quite some weeks to get up to speed and the further problem is that he isn't going to play many games back to back so how can we get him up to speed?sam-caddick said:He does look like he is getting tired.
The problem is had Jovetic been fit he would have come in, Stevan is the only player in my opinion who can come in and do that Sergio role when he needs a rest.
You say he can play the Sergio role, but I don't think he's ever been that prolific a scorer
Maybe not the goals, but Sergio has been dropping deeper this season, i think, and helping us get the ball forward, participating in the build up. I think Jovetic would probably make a great partner for Aguero in a match like today's, but he's got enough ball skills and creativity to do some of the things Aguero does that Negredo and Dzeko cannot. It seems like in Jovetic's absence, MP is pushing Nasri forward late in matches to try to do similar things to what Jovetic would presumably do.
And obviously Aguero has been fantastic. Had he gotten the 2nd today, we maybe take all the points. He's slightly more wasteful than I'd like him to be, but if he were as wasteful as I'd like him to be he'd be challenging Messi for best player in the sport.
This season he has been in fantastic form. Yes he misses some chances, but watch Suarez. He misses loads too
Regarding Jovetic, yes on paper it sounds like a great partnership, but although Jovetic is on the verge of a comeback, I just think its unrealistic to expect much from him this season because he has missed so many games, and isn't going to be able to get the games he needs to get sharp.