I also mentioned his qualities as a player. With Real Madrids spending power over the last god knows how many years, it seems strange that he would be a constant, under many different coaches`, if he was down there with brown and oshea.You mentioned medals and of course whether we like it or not these two played for 'The biggest team on the planet' Ramos playing for either Real or Spain doesn't qualify him as being so good or indeed better than a raft of others.
There again I am not a fanboy.
I also mentioned his qualities as a player. With Real Madrids spending power over the last god knows how many years, it seems strange that he would be a constant, under many different coaches`, if he was down there with brown and oshea.
Each to their own. As for bleeding the rags dry, it won`t happen. The last 4 years Blues have gone on about the rags debts and how they will implode. It is not going to happen. They are a cash cow, that just keeps making millions, as well as being one of the protected clubs by uefa and fifa.Fellani and Young were constants under the reigns of Moyes and the Tactical Turtle, it doesn't prove their worth. It's not that I don't rate Ramos in Spain playing for one of the top two but to lay out that amount of money on a player that's untested in the Premier league is folly IMO,I hope the rags buy him and pay him the reported wages so he can bleed them dry for 4 years or so.
Each to their own. As for bleeding the rags dry, it won`t happen. The last 4 years Blues have gone on about the rags debts and how they will implode. It is not going to happen. They are a cash cow, that just keeps making millions, as well as being one of the protected clubs by uefa and fifa.
I live in hope, but it isn`t going to happen. Rangers had virtually no TV income.That part we can agree on,but in time and over the years if we can prevent them having success the club could deteriorate like Rangers and the Italians did/have.
So basically you've just said all our centre halves are shit?Think Mangala at his worst last season, chasing the ball/man around like an 8 year old in the playground; that's Ramos' approach to playing centre half, albeit with more technical ability and discipline problems. He'll get exposed just as David Luiz was.
We already have two of those types in the aforementioned Mangala and Demichelis, plus Kompany, who's got a big season ahead of him. Our next centre half has to be an intelligent one, positionally impeccable and composed both on the ball and in his decision making. Ramos would be no use to us in that regard; I'd take him as leftback, but that's all.
So basically you've just said all our centre halves are shit?
And you wonder why people give you shit on the forum
I couldn't care what an insecure few on this forum think. The whole point of these platforms is to express your opinions, not take orders from General Consensus; if you think our team and transfer policy are faultless and without potential for improvement then good luck to you, but you have to accept that other people think otherwise and will propose ways in which to improve them.
None of our current centre halves are up to the standard set by Chelsea; the pre-Pellegrini Kompany was, but his current form simply hasn't been good enough. Demichelis has cost us more goals with individual errors in 2 seasons than Lescott did in 5, and Mangala's first season wasn't anywhere near as good as Nastasic's, despite the Serb experiencing all the same mitigating circumstances that people use to excuse Mangala's mistakes.
Kompany can come again, but it's essential that we find him an intelligent partner to establish the kind of familiarity and stability that allowed him to previously prosper. Mangala and Demichelis go AWOL far to often to fit that description, and Ramos would be the same. There's a 21 year old defender at Everton who was the best on the pitch against us, the Rags and Chelsea who ticks every box, but it looks like the latter will sign him and groom him alongside John Terry with a view to succeeding him.
Stones and a proper midfield anchor should have been our primary targets this summer, as an improved defence with a resurrected Kompany would take us closer to Chelsea next season than any marquee 'Golactico' signing can. Hopefully we have a few targets that have gone under the radar because if not our potential attacking brilliance next season will be neutralised by defensive ineptitude.
Mascherano still regards himself as a defensive midfielder despite being used almost exclusively in defence by Barca in the past 5 years; a chance to play there for the remainder of his career, alongside international teammates in a league he's already excelled in might just appeal to him.
YawnI couldn't care what an insecure few on this forum think. The whole point of these platforms is to express your opinions, not take orders from General Consensus; if you think our team and transfer policy are faultless and without potential for improvement then good luck to you, but you have to accept that other people think otherwise and will propose ways in which to improve them.
None of our current centre halves are up to the standard set by Chelsea; the pre-Pellegrini Kompany was, but his current form simply hasn't been good enough. Demichelis has cost us more goals with individual errors in 2 seasons than Lescott did in 5, and Mangala's first season wasn't anywhere near as good as Nastasic's, despite the Serb experiencing all the same mitigating circumstances that people use to excuse Mangala's mistakes.
Kompany can come again, but it's essential that we find him an intelligent partner to establish the kind of familiarity and stability that allowed him to previously prosper. Mangala and Demichelis go AWOL far to often to fit that description, and Ramos would be the same. There's a 21 year old defender at Everton who was the best on the pitch against us, the Rags and Chelsea who ticks every box, but it looks like the latter will sign him and groom him alongside John Terry with a view to succeeding him.
Stones and a proper midfield anchor should have been our primary targets this summer, as an improved defence with a resurrected Kompany would take us closer to Chelsea next season than any marquee 'Golactico' signing can. Hopefully we have a few targets that have gone under the radar because if not our potential attacking brilliance next season will be neutralised by defensive ineptitude.
Mascherano still regards himself as a defensive midfielder despite being used almost exclusively in defence by Barca in the past 5 years; a chance to play there for the remainder of his career, alongside international teammates in a league he's already excelled in might just appeal to him.
Think Mangala at his worst last season, chasing the ball/man around like an 8 year old in the playground; that's Ramos' approach to playing centre half, albeit with more technical ability and discipline problems. He'll get exposed just as David Luiz was.
We already have two of those types in the aforementioned Mangala and Demichelis, plus Kompany, who's got a big season ahead of him. Our next centre half has to be an intelligent one, positionally impeccable and composed both on the ball and in his decision making. Ramos would be no use to us in that regard; I'd take him as leftback, but that's all.
+1Yawn
Still chatting shit
You dont think Mangala, Demi of Vinnie are intelligent? Wow
Leave the poor chap alone, he's John Stone's agent and he's desperate to get the kid a move away from Everton before the 'young and English' hype wears off.
I couldn't care what an insecure few on this forum think. The whole point of these platforms is to express your opinions, not take orders from General Consensus; if you think our team and transfer policy are faultless and without potential for improvement then good luck to you, but you have to accept that other people think otherwise and will propose ways in which to improve them.
None of our current centre halves are up to the standard set by Chelsea; the pre-Pellegrini Kompany was, but his current form simply hasn't been good enough. Demichelis has cost us more goals with individual errors in 2 seasons than Lescott did in 5, and Mangala's first season wasn't anywhere near as good as Nastasic's, despite the Serb experiencing all the same mitigating circumstances that people use to excuse Mangala's mistakes.
Kompany can come again, but it's essential that we find him an intelligent partner to establish the kind of familiarity and stability that allowed him to previously prosper. Mangala and Demichelis go AWOL far to often to fit that description, and Ramos would be the same. There's a 21 year old defender at Everton who was the best on the pitch against us, the Rags and Chelsea who ticks every box, but it looks like the latter will sign him and groom him alongside John Terry with a view to succeeding him.
Stones and a proper midfield anchor should have been our primary targets this summer, as an improved defence with a resurrected Kompany would take us closer to Chelsea next season than any marquee 'Golactico' signing can. Hopefully we have a few targets that have gone under the radar because if not our potential attacking brilliance next season will be neutralised by defensive ineptitude.
Mascherano still regards himself as a defensive midfielder despite being used almost exclusively in defence by Barca in the past 5 years; a chance to play there for the remainder of his career, alongside international teammates in a league he's already excelled in might just appeal to him.
Some good points there. For me Mascherano was Player of the Tournament in the World Cup last year. He was IMMENSE in central midfield for Argentina i don't think he put a foot wrong. Not a bad under the radar shout for our anchor in midfield - in that position players at the top level can still play into their mid 30s as well so we could get three good years out of him. But i just don't see it being something that will happen.I couldn't care what an insecure few on this forum think. The whole point of these platforms is to express your opinions, not take orders from General Consensus; if you think our team and transfer policy are faultless and without potential for improvement then good luck to you, but you have to accept that other people think otherwise and will propose ways in which to improve them.
None of our current centre halves are up to the standard set by Chelsea; the pre-Pellegrini Kompany was, but his current form simply hasn't been good enough. Demichelis has cost us more goals with individual errors in 2 seasons than Lescott did in 5, and Mangala's first season wasn't anywhere near as good as Nastasic's, despite the Serb experiencing all the same mitigating circumstances that people use to excuse Mangala's mistakes.
Kompany can come again, but it's essential that we find him an intelligent partner to establish the kind of familiarity and stability that allowed him to previously prosper. Mangala and Demichelis go AWOL far to often to fit that description, and Ramos would be the same. There's a 21 year old defender at Everton who was the best on the pitch against us, the Rags and Chelsea who ticks every box, but it looks like the latter will sign him and groom him alongside John Terry with a view to succeeding him.
Stones and a proper midfield anchor should have been our primary targets this summer, as an improved defence with a resurrected Kompany would take us closer to Chelsea next season than any marquee 'Golactico' signing can. Hopefully we have a few targets that have gone under the radar because if not our potential attacking brilliance next season will be neutralised by defensive ineptitude.
Mascherano still regards himself as a defensive midfielder despite being used almost exclusively in defence by Barca in the past 5 years; a chance to play there for the remainder of his career, alongside international teammates in a league he's already excelled in might just appeal to him.
John Stones better signing than Ramos. Love that one, proper Transfer Forum stuff
He would be a better signing! Even if he is not as good as ramos! Good player, great potential, wouldn't cost 40m and 250k a week and we could get 10 years out of him not 3