Sevilla (A) - Tue 6th Sept, 20:00 | Pre-Match Thread

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colorado blue said:
I would agree but depends on who wins in our place. I would not care as much if it was anyone but Liverpool or Rags.
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The idea of sacrificing the league for UCL is as bogus as it gets. If it is a guarantee that if you don’t win the league, then you win UCL, fair enough then you can do that. But I still believe winning breeds winning.

Real Madrid won the UCL last season and people are acting like there is any guarantee that we win it if we sacrifice the league.
 
Tokyo32 said:
The idea of sacrificing the league for UCL is as bogus as it gets. If it is a guarantee that if you don’t win the league, then you win UCL, fair enough then you can do that. But I still believe winning breeds winning.

Real Madrid won the UCL last season and people are acting like there is any guarantee that we win it if we sacrifice the league.
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I don’t think anyone is saying sacrifice the league to win the UCL, or that doing so would gaurantee winning it.

I know my argument is a pretty straightforward one: the club need the team to when the CL, full stop. It’s the only thing that grows our stature at this point and is needed to allow for continued success on and off the pitch as us “old” supporters age out.
 
Tokyo32 said:
The idea of sacrificing the league for UCL is as bogus as it gets. If it is a guarantee that if you don’t win the league, then you win UCL, fair enough then you can do that. But I still believe winning breeds winning.

Real Madrid won the UCL last season and people are acting like there is any guarantee that we win it if we sacrifice the league.
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Agree but with a small ish squad compared to many other teams, as Pep prefers. I think theres a shout to not play the first XI in the domestic cups…..
 
Massive change in attitude from BT Sport towards us,don’t trust them at all,blowing smoke up our arse.
 
SebastianBlue said:
There are definitely still records to be made. There always will be.

But we’ve entered the realm of diminishing returns. Winning three, or four in a row is not going to significantly improve our global stature. And the club needs that type of improvement to continue growing and capturing fans outside of us FOCs. Even in England, it is needed to capture the fans, as much as that makes many of us uncomfortable.

We can’t both demand continued dominance and reject the means in which that dominance can be continued.

I know we all want to be able to be the best club in the world for generations to come by being a solely local club, but it just doesn’t work that way. It hasn’t for quite some time.

The reality is the club need the team to win the CL.

That is what we’ll take us to the very top echelon, whether we like it or not.
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Arsenal have never won the CL but they’re a bigger worldwide club than Chelsea.

I’m not saying it won’t make a difference to our stature but I don’t give a fuck about our stature, I don’t care if we’re seen as a big club, I don’t care if the media and other fans have a stick to beat us with. All I care about is my relationship with City.

As I said I really do want to win the CL (I’d fucking love to win it!) but I don’t want to win it for any other **** around the world. I don’t want us to win it so the media Forest Villa Chelsea United and Liverpool fans have got less to say about us (if anything you’ll only see the negative anti-City anti-Abu Dhabi sportswashing cheating “your titles don’t mean anything” press rocket!), I don’t want to win it so some sad **** in Alabama Adelaide or Addis Ababa starts supporting us, I only want to win it for me and my relationship with City, our long standing fans, the City players and management team, and boardroom.

But don’t dimish what winning three or even four English first division titles in a row would mean. That’s 135 years of history and being up there with the best or indisputably the best. We haven’t finished domestically!
 
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