Shooting at Mandalay Bay Resort (Las Vegas)

I appreciate that position and I do understand that there are people who legitimately have a need for a firearm, especially in rural area's, and that there are plenty of responsible gun owners.
Zero ownership wouldn't even have to be implemented, just very strict access and stringent control and 100% traceability, thereby severely limiting the possibility of any weapon ending up where it shouldn't.
Currently none of those measures have been implemented or only half-arsed and the likelihood of legal weapons ending up on the black market is just too big, especially when you consider the sheer amount of arms in circulation. That's the problem that should be addressed.
Clinton tried when he restricted the clip size (at one point it was 9 round clips max not the 30 rnd mags used in these mass shootings) and the NRA lost their shit, I served in the military and can say that no one needs or should own a AR-15 or equivalent assault rifle, its crazy here in the states, some allow .50 caliber barett rifles which can disable a tank or aircraft, who the fuck really needs that?
 
Clinton tried when he restricted the clip size (at one point it was 9 round clips max not the 30 rnd mags used in these mass shootings) and the NRA lost their shit, I served in the military and can say that no one needs or should own a AR-15 or equivalent assault rifle, its crazy here in the states, some allow .50 caliber barett rifles which can disable a tank or aircraft, who the fuck really needs that?

The NRA's influence on public policy is pretty reprehensible as they only really seem to serve the manufacturer's interests, they are an integral part of the problem.
And indeed nobody has any realistic purpose for any military spec weaponry and yet it's practically available over the counter, it's borderline insanity.
Hard to see this situation changing any time soon and I fear for the eventual human cost before it finally does.
 
These guys say this system is legal...



Not having a bash i should note, just that they say their gadgets are legal and that seems like full auto to me haha.



If you listen to the drum magazine on here and the real fire they sound kind of similar, struggle at first then kind of finds a sweet spot that allows the bullets to be homed with greater ease resulting in that long full auto rapid fire. A slide/bump modification of sorts at any rate.
 
If you listen to the drum magazine on here and the real fire they sound kind of similar, struggle at first then kind of finds a sweet spot that allows the bullets to be homed with greater ease resulting in that long full auto rapid fire. A slide/bump modification of sorts at any rate.

Yep, reports are stating that AR-15 style assault rifles were found at the scene.
Hard to find any real justification for owning these and yet they're easy to buy and easy to customise.
And apparently also easy to shoot which would explain some of the appeal, especially for recreational shooting but it still seems a bit of overkill for personal defence and pretty useless for hunting.
 
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Jesus, just imagine how many would be dead if one of those nutters with 50 cal machine guns or world war 2 machine gun emplacements went on a rampage. No idea how you can argue that any civilian should have one of them, unless he is intending to defend the beaches of Normandy from the allied forces
I don't think you can go on a rampage with an emplacement.

USA the only country with more guns than people. And twice as many per capita now compared to 50 years ago. Tunisia the lowest - and we ban travel to Tunisia based on one incident.

Here's one for all the constitional lawyers. In all those westerns where the sheriff expected visitors to town to hand in their gun, was that against the second amendment? And why does the USA have such stupid judges to interpret the constitution?
 
With the Constitutional Right to have no restrictions on it, of course. Oh wait...!

I'm not here to defend America, only to try to help others understand why so many Americans own guns and feel the need to.

I'm disgusted by gun crime and think they should throw away the key for those that commit crimes using guns! I'm serious on law and order...but I'm also a gun owner! Crazy me, huh?!

Out of curiosity, what militia are you a member of and who regulates it?
 
I've never been or wanted to visit the US, it holds no interest to me.

The last time I held or shot a gun would have been in the late 70s whilst as an army cadet, and it was a 303 rifle,.

Although I don't have to explain myself, I'm not the one making bold claims that Manchester is more dangerous than 98% of the US, am I.

98% of the US is empty. Any major city in the world is more dangerous than 98% of the US...its all about which 98%. Otherwise his point is silly.
 
@ChicagoBlue is getting some undue shit on here, he lives in america if he wants a gun its his right. He seems very knowledgeable on guns and gun laws. Its not like he is some mad man(hes a blue not a rag) things are not going to change any time soon in america regarding guns so leave them to it

Nope.
 

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