Shooting / Rioting in Paris

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I didnt actually see a thread for this. But what's peoples thoughts on this incident..



Seems clear and dry to me they shot an unarmed someone (Again) because the officer panicked. Too many people being shot by our police services, it seems to be the got-to solution. Anyway, just my pov. Sad event though and I hope the officer wasnt just a shit, and that there was a real reason to shoot this kid but I'm struggling to see how or why.
 
I didnt actually see a thread for this. But what's peoples thoughts on this incident..



Seems clear and dry to me they shot an unarmed someone (Again) because the officer panicked. Too many people being shot by our police services, it seems to be the got-to solution. Anyway, just my pov. Sad event though and I hope the officer wasnt just a shit, and that there was a real reason to shoot this kid but I'm struggling to see how or why.

Urban violence spread tonight in Hauts-de-Seine. Cars, two-wheelers and garbage cans were set on fire in Asnières, Clichy, Colombes, Gennevilliers, Villeneuve-la-Garenne, Rueil-Malmaison, Suresnes, Boulogne-Billancourt, Bourg-la-Reine, Clamart, Montrouge, Bagneux, Vanves, or Malakoff again. In the municipalities where the clashes were the hardest, the police used tear gas canisters and LBD fire.

In Gennevilliers, garbage containers went up in smoke, and a bus shelter was pulverized. "I saw fireworks firing on avenue Gabriel-Péri", comments Hafid, a resident. This Wednesday, around 8 a.m., firefighters were still putting out a pile of rubbish that was about to burn. In Colombes, an acrid odor still hovered over the Fossés-Jean district, where a blackened mass was consuming itself in the middle of the rue Jules-Michelet.

And in Villeneuve-la-Garenne, a little before 2 a.m., a group of around thirty people attacked the new premises of the municipal police. "They turned around when they realized that even at that time there were people inside," said a witness.

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Burned town hall, burnt cars, 31 arrests… Night of violence in Nanterre after the death of Nahel
A 17-year-old boy was killed by a police officer on Tuesday morning after refusing to comply. Garbage fires, fireworks and burnt cars punctuated the night from Tuesday to Wednesday in Nanterre but also in Clichy-sous-Bois, Asnières, Colombes, Roubaix, Colmar…

By Caroline Piquet and Julien Constant
June 28 , 2023 at 6:24 a.m. , modified on June 28, 2023 at 9:20 a.m.
31 people were arrested on the sidelines of the violence which erupted overnight from Tuesday to Wednesday in Nanterre (Hauts-de-Seine) after the death of Nahel, 17 , according to the latest report drawn up this morning by the police prefect of Paris. The teenager was killed Tuesday morning by a police shot, the latter justifying his act by a refusal to comply. He is currently in custody .

Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin condemned this Wednesday morning this “urban violence” which took place for the most part in Hauts-de-Seine, but also in other municipalities, and called for “calm”. In addition to the 31 arrests, he speaks of "24 police officers injured" and "forty vehicles burned", as well as an annex of the town hall of Mantes-la-Jolie (Yvelines) burned down.

Fires and mortar fire in Nanterre
After the tragedy, residents gathered on Tuesday evening in front of the Nanterre police station demanding "Justice for Nahel" and chanting "police everywhere, justice nowhere". “We already had a certain hatred of the police, it only reinforces it. We feel anger, incomprehension, what happened to Nahel is disproportionate, it revolts me, ”launches Yanis, in his twenties, at Parisian.



In this city, urban violence was concentrated in the districts of the Old Bridge where Nahel was from, but also in Zilina, Berthelot, Pablo Picasso and Damades. The police were targeted by projectiles, firework mortars and sometimes Molotov cocktails.


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About 25 vehicles and garbage cans - often erected as barricades - were destroyed in the town. "Trash cans are burning in almost all the cities of Nanterre", lamented a policeman last night. Several administrative buildings (public finances, community hall, two school groups) were also damaged by fires.


One person was injured, possibly hit in the eye by an LBD shot, according to our information. Another was lightly hit in the eye by firework mortar fire. Clashes took place with law enforcement, who tried to disperse small groups of rioters with tear gas.

As for the authorities, 20 police officers were slightly injured, including 18 CRS and two agents from the Gennevilliers BAC. Ten police vehicles and a vehicle from the Paris Fire Brigade (BSPP) were also damaged.

The mayor of Nanterre Patrick Jarry called for calm this Wednesday morning, "after a night of unacceptable degradation. Nanterre lived through one of the most terrible days in its history,” he wrote in a press release , “we want justice for Naël, we will obtain it through our peaceful mobilization.”

Other cities affected by the violence
Urban violence spread tonight in Hauts-de-Seine. Cars, two-wheelers and garbage cans were set on fire in Asnières, Clichy, Colombes, Gennevilliers, Villeneuve-la-Garenne, Rueil-Malmaison, Suresnes, Boulogne-Billancourt, Bourg-la-Reine, Clamart, Montrouge, Bagneux, Vanves, or Malakoff again. In the municipalities where the clashes were the hardest, the police used tear gas canisters and LBD fire.

In Gennevilliers, garbage containers went up in smoke, and a bus shelter was pulverized. "I saw fireworks firing on avenue Gabriel-Péri", comments Hafid, a resident. This Wednesday, around 8 a.m., firefighters were still putting out a pile of rubbish that was about to burn. In Colombes, an acrid odor still hovered over the Fossés-Jean district, where a blackened mass was consuming itself in the middle of the rue Jules-Michelet.

Doves. Tensions have not avoided the Fossés Jean district, here rue Michèle, in Colombes.
Doves. Tensions have not avoided the Fossés Jean district, here rue Michèle, in Colombes.
And in Villeneuve-la-Garenne, a little before 2 a.m., a group of around thirty people attacked the new premises of the municipal police. "They turned around when they realized that even at that time there were people inside," said a witness.


Tensions also spread in Seine-Saint-Denis, particularly in Saint-Denis and Montfermeil where the alleged perpetrators of the abuses were arrested. In the department, the police responded with more than 46 shots from the defense ball launcher (LBD) during the interventions. No injuries are reported. Violence was also observed in Essonne, Yvelines and even in Paris XX, where young people set fire to a bush.

In Mantes-la-Jolie (Yvelines), the annex town hall of Val-Fourré was set on fire and significant damage is to be deplored according to our information. "The neighborhood town hall was completely destroyed by fire," said the mayor of the city, Raphaël Cognet (DVD), in a statement posted on Twitter .



That's all well and good, but how did they react to the shooting?
 
Doesn't take much to make the French smash their own streets up, just another shitty day in Paris.
Not sure about not much tbf. The police shot someone unarmed for driving away from them. He was shot quite dead too.

Not sure the mother is the best though, she seems intent on stirring up more trouble. I might be wrong though, not read much but seems shocking.
 
Not sure about not much tbf. The police shot someone unarmed for driving away from them. He was shot quite dead too.

Not sure the mother is the best though, she seems intent on stirring up more trouble. I might be wrong though, not read much but seems shocking.

The riots don’t help with anything though

Clearly Police have to be held accountable- but seems to me too many just love burning cars, looting and lobbing rocks for the fun of it
 
Not sure about not much tbf. The police shot someone unarmed for driving away from them. He was shot quite dead too.

Not sure the mother is the best though, she seems intent on stirring up more trouble. I might be wrong though, not read much but seems shocking.


It's just another riot though isn't it mate, a normal day in gay Paris.
These idiots don't know the facts we don't know if the bloke had a gun in the car or even a hostage we know nothing.

I smell a Dugganism happening ;)
 
It's just another riot though isn't it mate, a normal day in gay Paris.
These idiots don't know the facts we don't know if the bloke had a gun in the car or even a hostage we know nothing.

I smell a Dugganism happening ;)
Yup, those frenchies do like a riot.
But tbh we do know the facts. It was teens in a car, no guns, no hostages. no lives threatened (Except the police officer who was leaning on the car when it moved). No guns have been found, no hostages, no bombs. It literally seems they just shot him.
 
Yup, those frenchies do like a riot.
But tbh we do know the facts. It was teens in a car, no guns, no hostages. no lives threatened (Except the police officer who was leaning on the car when it moved). No guns have been found, no hostages, no bombs. It literally seems they just shot him.


I don't think they've stopped rioting for 20 years, what's French for "Defund The Police" ;O
 
On a few occasions I have been stopped by French police officers.
Seeing the gun on their hip always focuses my mind to exactly what they ask of me.
 
I was being sarcastic. The officers life wasn't in danger.
Similar thing happened here in Canada not too long ago except the cop didn't shoot the driver and he died as a result of his injuries after being dragged and run over by the car.
Can't say that the same would have happened in this case. Just saying why I think the cop shot him.
 
I was being sarcastic. The officers life wasn't in danger. The kid was driving away, not at him.
Still haven't heard anyone say why the kid decided to drive away, when there was a gun pointed at his head. In that scenario, I'd be "yes officer, no officer, three bags full officer". Was he afraid he was going to be shot there and then? Maybe, who knows? Only he can answer that, and that's not going to happen. One sure thing, though; once he decided to try to leave the scene, he signed his own death warrant. French police generally don't fuck about.
 

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