Shootings in Paris

Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech

Well yes it is. I won't here but just because 2 billion believe in something gives it no right to immunity from ridicule.
Especially when there is no evidence for any of it's claims to be true.

In fact it is probably best i don't carry on with this reply hehe :-)
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech

As-salamu alaykum.

Very well put brother.
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech

Is that right?
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech
I actually agree with the principle of what you're saying. There has to be a line and while we shouldn't have to live in fear of our lives over honest words, I believe we should respect the sensibilities of others but at the same time not be afraid to criticise or to listen to honest criticism.
 
Barcon said:
Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,(pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech

Is that right?
And I quote "there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed"
Oh dear
 
Barcon said:
Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech

Is that right?
No, its bollocks, The sort of perpetuating crap that has been fueling the fires of Paris.
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech

I don't think they compare. One is satirical, the other obviously isn't.

Like you say there is only freedom of speech within the law. I assume Charlie Hebdo were inside their law. Just as probably the hate cleric from the middle east would be inside theirs.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Balti said:
what no pork humour?!

not even in cartoon form?!?!
The CoC requires you to treat other users with respect. People need to remember that there are posters on here who are Muslim and that our club's owner and his family are as well. They aren't the ones who carried out these atrocities.

Reading some of the views in the thread and concerning our ownership I am surprised some can actually in all good concience remain City fans.

I hope that there are not a lot of our supporters or even our owners reading threads like this and learning just what some of our fans think of them and their religion.
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech
Mocking a belief shouldn't be an issue though, it doesn't stop those who believe, believing does it ?

All religions get mocked, Islam is mocked no more than any other, and its the extremists in all religions that cause their religion to be mocked, those who worship quietly, and don't force it on others, never seem to have an issue.
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
freedom of speech is an interesting concept but however the concepts only comes up when its about mocking Muslims or their beliefs,there is no difference between some radical cleric giving a hate speech and provoking people for terrorism and someone abusing or drawing up images of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) or mocking islam( a religion of 2 billion people) and taking a cover of freedom of speech but my question is where does freedom of speech goes when a footballer shares a joke about jews and gets banned (balotelli) or gets banned for a mere celebration (anelka case ) or you cant talk about holacaust in europe or homophobic text etc ,
only in today's news american rapper snoop dogg is facing a lawsuit for sharing a homophabic image ?where are all the so called human rights organisation supporting freedom of speech or where were they Israel gunned down 17 journalist?accrording to one of guardian articles the same magazine fired a journalist for anti semetic article ,i fully condemn the killings and condolences to the families but mocking beliefs of 2 billion people around the world is no freedom of speech

freedom of speech also allows the mocking of everyone in the world including christian muppets and jewish arseholes and of course buddhist coonts and hindu wankers etc etc etc etc

muslims just seem to be hogging the limelight for some apparently obscure reason just now
 

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