Shootings in Paris

[Rascal]

Seems like not all Muslims look at things like Goalmole.


A SET OF guidelines on how to react to cartoons depicting Mohammad has been shared among Muslim communities this morning.

Published by a teacher in London, they have been added to by an Islamic Centre in Ireland following the release of Charlie Hebdo’s survivors’ edition.

Dublin-based Shaykh Umar Al-Qadri calls for Irish Muslims not to allow hatred creep into their hearts and react with patience, tolerance, gentleness and mercy.

He, however, has also encouraged Muslims to discuss their feelings and their anger with people they know, especially those not of the same faith.

Here are the guidelines, in full, as set out by Shaykh Umar Al-Qadri, the President and Imam of the Al-Mustafa Islamic Educational & Cultural Centre Ireland.

The following points are general guidelines for Muslims in Ireland on how to initially deal with and immediately react to the depiction of Prophet Muhammad in print media due to be published or published already.

1. For every Muslim, Love of the Prophet is a NECESSARY part of his/her FAITH. He is dearer to us than our mothers, fathers, sons & daughters. We prefer him to our own self.

2. The publishing of cartoons that insult or make fun of the Prophet Muhammad will hurt the sentiments of 1.8 billion Muslims around the world, as well as millions of non-Muslims who respect the great personality of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him).

3. Muslims do believe in freedom of speech. And they do respect the right for people to say what they believe to be correct. However, we all know that there is no such thing as absolute free speech.

There are laws to protect the dignity and properties of people. We urge all decent minded Governments and individuals to respect these sensitivities, as we should respect all races and religions.

In the struggle for freedom of speech it was never the intention to extend freedom of speech to making fun of insulting customs, traditions, personalities that are sacred to a particular community.

4. As it is clear that the cartoons are to be published again, Muslims will inevitably be hurt, offended and upset, but our reaction must be a reflection of the teachings of the one we love and are offended for. Enduring patience, tolerance, gentleness and mercy as was the character of our beloved Prophet (peace and Blessings be upon him) is the best and immediate way to respond.

Our aim is to not, inadvertently, give the cartoons more prominence through our attention. Muslims must remain calm and peaceful in their speech and actions. Repel harm with goodness is the Qur’anic imperative and by which the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) lived.

5. Muslims have to remember that by depicting the Prophet, no one can ever tarnish his image, as he is way beyond what is depicted, as Allah says, ‘We have elevated your remembrance’. We should spend such regrettable moments in reading lots of Durood, sending salawaat and blessings to his beloved personality. May Allah’s mercy, peace and blessing be upon his soul.


6. Engage with others about your feelings. Speak of your love for the Prophet and do not be shy to let your non-Muslims friends know your justified anger at the mockery that is made of our faith. People need to know HOW MUCH WE LOVE OUR NABI.

7. Learn more and share more about the great Prophet Muhammed that was said about him by non-Muslims.

8. We should, through our actions and deeds, display the sublime character of the Prophet (peace be upon him). The Prophet faced many great challenges but he exhibited impeccable beauty and character in his actions.

He did not react inhumanely or violently. He was attacked verbally and physically in Taif but he forgave the people. His uncle and companions were murdered but he reacted peacefully and in a humane manner. And there are many such examples from the Life of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) we must display.

9. As Irish citizens we must not allow tragic incidents of Paris for hate to creep into our hearts. Muslims, non-Muslims and people of all backgrounds must come together and show unity and solidarity and not let it divide our communities.

We must remember the statements of the Prophet (peace be upon him) such as:

“Someone who unjustly kills a human cannot attain a whiff of Heaven. (Sahih Bukhari), or, “He who hurts a human hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah.” (Tabarani) And many other similar Hadiths highlighting that Muslims are not allowed to hurt their non-Muslim brothers and sisters in humanity.

10. We must continuously supplicate to Allah that He rectifies our situation. Pray to Him that the chaos, injustice and oppression is lifted from our society. We should pray to Allah so that He makes the World a better, fairer and just place for all. Pray to Him to aid the oppressed and the victims of the oppressors in France and all over the world. Pray that He allows us to contribute to a more peaceful and just world. Sincerely pray at night and beseech Him to protect our honour and our dignity.

May Allah give us the ability to do what is right and avoid what is wrong. May Allah protect the whole of humanity from trials and tribulations. Ameen

I doubt this will ever see the pages of the Daily Mail.

He sounds a thoughtful, passionate and devout man.

 

[aguero93:20]

I like being called names on here. It shows I'm on the right track.
Please enlighten us as to what their thinking was?

You really believe this is about saying 'fuck you' to Muslims? Don't they also take the piss out of other religious figures? I'm still waiting for Jewish/Christian posters to come on here ranting about such offensive cartoons. I actually get the feeling you'd like your accusations to be true for some weird reason.

I think we need to look at demographics. Jews and Christians have been pretty much settled in their respective areas across Europe for generations. That leads to a sense of security and acceptance.
If your environment is somewhat 'new' then you will feel less secure.

Fair dues to them after the last century or so then. All the ones fucking off to Israel from France this week might disagree with you though.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

You really believe this is about saying 'fuck you' to Muslims? Don't they also take the piss out of other religious figures? I'm still waiting for Jewish/Christian posters to come on here ranting about such offensive cartoons. I actually get the feeling you'd like your accusations to be true for some weird reason.

I think we need to look at demographics. Jews and Christians have been pretty much settled in their respective areas across Europe for generations. That leads to a sense of security and acceptance.
If your environment is somewhat 'new' then you will feel less secure.

Fair dues to them after the last century or so then. All the ones fucking off to Israel from France this week might disagree with you though.

Yup, plenty of issues for French Jews.

 

[mackenzie]

You really believe this is about saying 'fuck you' to Muslims? Don't they also take the piss out of other religious figures? I'm still waiting for Jewish/Christian posters to come on here ranting about such offensive cartoons. I actually get the feeling you'd like your accusations to be true for some weird reason.

I think we need to look at demographics. Jews and Christians have been pretty much settled in their respective areas across Europe for generations. That leads to a sense of security and acceptance.
If your environment is somewhat 'new' then you will feel less secure.

Fair dues to them after the last century or so then. All the ones fucking off to Israel from France this week might disagree with you though.

I'm talking about the perpetrators in this case, not the victims.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

Just be moderate you fucking twats! - That's to all believers in religion! The non-believers are going to hell anyway aren't they? According to you beliefs? Just chill the fuck out! Practise your beliefs in peace and get your virgins or eternal bliss or whatever you believe is coming to you.

Mean bastards.

 

[goalmole]

Do you honestly believe what you've posted there? The last time I read a post that deluded was on the Thatcher thread. You're a loon.

I like being called names on here. It shows I'm on the right track.
Please enlighten us as to what their thinking was?

You really believe this is about saying 'fuck you' to Muslims? Don't they also take the piss out of other religious figures? I'm still waiting for Jewish/Christian posters to come on here ranting about such offensive cartoons. I actually get the feeling you'd like your accusations to be true for some weird reason.

The biggest fuck you, you could ever give to Muslim. And the reason they did it? For no other reason than that they could and the Muslims could like it or lump it. As I remember it, there was no great crisis of free speech they were trying to address. Nobody was attacking free speech at the time. It was a straw man put up to inflame the Muslim community and to put the Muslim minority in it's place.

 

[Balti]

Seems like not all Muslims look at things like Goalmole.


A SET OF guidelines on how to react to cartoons depicting Mohammad has been shared among Muslim communities this morning.

Published by a teacher in London, they have been added to by an Islamic Centre in Ireland following the release of Charlie Hebdo’s survivors’ edition.

Dublin-based Shaykh Umar Al-Qadri calls for Irish Muslims not to allow hatred creep into their hearts and react with patience, tolerance, gentleness and mercy.

He, however, has also encouraged Muslims to discuss their feelings and their anger with people they know, especially those not of the same faith.

Here are the guidelines, in full, as set out by Shaykh Umar Al-Qadri, the President and Imam of the Al-Mustafa Islamic Educational & Cultural Centre Ireland.

The following points are general guidelines for Muslims in Ireland on how to initially deal with and immediately react to the depiction of Prophet Muhammad in print media due to be published or published already.

1. For every Muslim, Love of the Prophet is a NECESSARY part of his/her FAITH. He is dearer to us than our mothers, fathers, sons & daughters. We prefer him to our own self.

2. The publishing of cartoons that insult or make fun of the Prophet Muhammad will hurt the sentiments of 1.8 billion Muslims around the world, as well as millions of non-Muslims who respect the great personality of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him).

3. Muslims do believe in freedom of speech. And they do respect the right for people to say what they believe to be correct. However, we all know that there is no such thing as absolute free speech.

There are laws to protect the dignity and properties of people. We urge all decent minded Governments and individuals to respect these sensitivities, as we should respect all races and religions.

In the struggle for freedom of speech it was never the intention to extend freedom of speech to making fun of insulting customs, traditions, personalities that are sacred to a particular community.

4. As it is clear that the cartoons are to be published again, Muslims will inevitably be hurt, offended and upset, but our reaction must be a reflection of the teachings of the one we love and are offended for. Enduring patience, tolerance, gentleness and mercy as was the character of our beloved Prophet (peace and Blessings be upon him) is the best and immediate way to respond.

Our aim is to not, inadvertently, give the cartoons more prominence through our attention. Muslims must remain calm and peaceful in their speech and actions. Repel harm with goodness is the Qur’anic imperative and by which the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) lived.

5. Muslims have to remember that by depicting the Prophet, no one can ever tarnish his image, as he is way beyond what is depicted, as Allah says, ‘We have elevated your remembrance’. We should spend such regrettable moments in reading lots of Durood, sending salawaat and blessings to his beloved personality. May Allah’s mercy, peace and blessing be upon his soul.


6. Engage with others about your feelings. Speak of your love for the Prophet and do not be shy to let your non-Muslims friends know your justified anger at the mockery that is made of our faith. People need to know HOW MUCH WE LOVE OUR NABI.

7. Learn more and share more about the great Prophet Muhammed that was said about him by non-Muslims.

8. We should, through our actions and deeds, display the sublime character of the Prophet (peace be upon him). The Prophet faced many great challenges but he exhibited impeccable beauty and character in his actions.

He did not react inhumanely or violently. He was attacked verbally and physically in Taif but he forgave the people. His uncle and companions were murdered but he reacted peacefully and in a humane manner. And there are many such examples from the Life of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) we must display.

9. As Irish citizens we must not allow tragic incidents of Paris for hate to creep into our hearts. Muslims, non-Muslims and people of all backgrounds must come together and show unity and solidarity and not let it divide our communities.

We must remember the statements of the Prophet (peace be upon him) such as:

“Someone who unjustly kills a human cannot attain a whiff of Heaven. (Sahih Bukhari), or, “He who hurts a human hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah.” (Tabarani) And many other similar Hadiths highlighting that Muslims are not allowed to hurt their non-Muslim brothers and sisters in humanity.

10. We must continuously supplicate to Allah that He rectifies our situation. Pray to Him that the chaos, injustice and oppression is lifted from our society. We should pray to Allah so that He makes the World a better, fairer and just place for all. Pray to Him to aid the oppressed and the victims of the oppressors in France and all over the world. Pray that He allows us to contribute to a more peaceful and just world. Sincerely pray at night and beseech Him to protect our honour and our dignity.

May Allah give us the ability to do what is right and avoid what is wrong. May Allah protect the whole of humanity from trials and tribulations. Ameen

I doubt this will ever see the pages of the Daily Mail.

He sounds a thoughtful, passionate and devout man.

Maybe they could go door to door like the Jehovahs Witnesses ?

 

[squirtyflower]

I like being called names on here. It shows I'm on the right track.
Please enlighten us as to what their thinking was?

You really believe this is about saying 'fuck you' to Muslims? Don't they also take the piss out of other religious figures? I'm still waiting for Jewish/Christian posters to come on here ranting about such offensive cartoons. I actually get the feeling you'd like your accusations to be true for some weird reason.

The biggest fuck you, you could ever give to Muslim. And the reason they did it? For no other reason than that they could and the Muslims could like it or lump it. As I remember it, there was no great crisis of free speech they were trying to address. Nobody was attacking free speech at the time. It was a straw man put up to inflame the Muslim community and to put the Muslim minority in it's place.

It's become clear with every passing day where you are coming from

If you say fuck you to a Muslim then it's right that you (or someone of your race, we don't really care, in fact it could be anyone passing, even a devout Muslim) will be murdered

 

[Barcon]

I like being called names on here. It shows I'm on the right track.
Please enlighten us as to what their thinking was?

You really believe this is about saying 'fuck you' to Muslims? Don't they also take the piss out of other religious figures? I'm still waiting for Jewish/Christian posters to come on here ranting about such offensive cartoons. I actually get the feeling you'd like your accusations to be true for some weird reason.

The biggest fuck you, you could ever give to Muslim. And the reason they did it? For no other reason than that they could and the Muslims could like it or lump it. As I remember it, there was no great crisis of free speech they were trying to address. Nobody was attacking free speech at the time. It was a straw man put up to inflame the Muslim community and to put the Muslim minority in it's place.

So they killed a load of people.
Give it a fucking rest, if it wasn't this, they'd be killing people for some other reason. What is the world supposed to do, walk around on eggshells to avoid upsetting a load of overly sensitive thick cunts?

 

[happy daze]

Dutch Muslim Mayor tells those who don't like humorists to f*ck off (well that's near enough the translation)
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsOBjkCyCj8[/video]