Shootings in Paris

[BillyShears]

but I wouldn't rule out this unifying rather than dividing

I hope so. I stood with tens of thousands of other people in Republique last night. People from all walks of life, people of all religions and all faiths and all political persuasions. There was in that moment a sense of unification. But the truth is that those on the fringes are always looking for things like this to further their own rhetoric. Le Pen's been tweeting this morning about bringing back the death penalty. I suspect if what she'd tweeted was a post on Bluemoon there'd have been a lot of cheering for it.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

So much noise and bluster in this thread it's deeply depressing.

I live about 10 minutes walk from the Charlie Hebdo offices. What happened yesterday is tragic on so many levels. It was an attack not just on people but on the principles of the freedom of the press, an attack on something which should be truly scared, humour, and an attack which will probably signal a hard swing to the right in France, making my life more difficult on a day to day basis.

My own thoughts are with those who survived yesterday's attacks, and with the families of those who didn't. France could learn a lot from the way in which Norway dealt with Anders Breivik in terms treating him like a common criminal rather than a terrorist and giving him as little publicity as possible.

Are you a frenchman Mister?

If so, your command of the english language is excellent. I would have never guessed.

 

[BillyShears]

So much noise and bluster in this thread it's deeply depressing.

I live about 10 minutes walk from the Charlie Hebdo offices. What happened yesterday is tragic on so many levels. It was an attack not just on people but on the principles of the freedom of the press, an attack on something which should be truly scared, humour, and an attack which will probably signal a hard swing to the right in France, making my life more difficult on a day to day basis.

My own thoughts are with those who survived yesterday's attacks, and with the families of those who didn't. France could learn a lot from the way in which Norway dealt with Anders Breivik in terms treating him like a common criminal rather than a terrorist and giving him as little publicity as possible.

Are you a frenchman Mister?

If so, your command of the english language is excellent. I would have never guessed.

Stockport born and bred mate. :)

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

So much noise and bluster in this thread it's deeply depressing.

I live about 10 minutes walk from the Charlie Hebdo offices. What happened yesterday is tragic on so many levels. It was an attack not just on people but on the principles of the freedom of the press, an attack on something which should be truly scared, humour, and an attack which will probably signal a hard swing to the right in France, making my life more difficult on a day to day basis.

My own thoughts are with those who survived yesterday's attacks, and with the families of those who didn't. France could learn a lot from the way in which Norway dealt with Anders Breivik in terms treating him like a common criminal rather than a terrorist and giving him as little publicity as possible.

Are you a frenchman Mister?

If so, your command of the english language is excellent. I would have never guessed.

Stockport born and bred mate. :)

Stockport?!

If so, your command of the english language is excellent...




;-)

 

[BillyShears]

Stockport?!

If so, your command of the english language is excellent...




;-)

Haha. I knew this was coming!

 

[happy daze]

I am judging you on your posts in this thread, in which you are clearly out of your depth. Care to expand on the civil war post? Who apart from you and a waiter in Rusholme is part of this civil war? I'm all ears.

I thought you were being a little harsh on yourself........but yes you're right

 

[masterwig]

My thoughts:

Are these idiots lunatics who became religious or religious who became lunatics? In terms of finding and punishing those responsible it doesn't matter but in preventing future atrocities it is important.

As an enemy of the west, part of me thinks that we're better off fighting a religious substrand than a more politicised group. They're easily ridiculed and will never get mass support. If they were more political and used democratic means (albeit many are from non-democratic countries) we'd arguably be under greater threat.

Uk newspaper front pages today are dreadful (except Independent). The image of the policeman pleading for his life is powerful but the real message should be 'we are not afraid'.

It's good to hear all the support for freedom of expression in France. But freedom of expression must be universal. Let's not forget it is a country where you cannot wear certain items of clothing. Muslim women should be free to wear the veil if they so choose (of course whether any of them wear it through choice or oppression is another matter).

The Life of Brian should be shown in every school in England over and over. Never has religion been captured so well.

What a horrendous event this has all been and I fear it won't be the last. This kind of attack is becoming more common and it's extremely difficult to prevent.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

My thoughts:

Are these idiots lunatics who became religious or religious who became lunatics? In terms of finding and punishing those responsible it doesn't matter but in preventing future atrocities it is important.

As an enemy of the west, part of me thinks that we're better off fighting a religious substrand than a more politicised group. They're easily ridiculed and will never get mass support. If they were more political and used democratic means (albeit many are from non-democratic countries) we'd arguably be under greater threat.

Uk newspaper front pages today are dreadful (except Independent). The image of the policeman pleading for his life is powerful but the real message should be 'we are not afraid'.

It's good to hear all the support for freedom of expression in France. But freedom of expression must be universal. Let's not forget it is a country where you cannot wear certain items of clothing. Muslim women should be free to wear the veil if they so choose (of course whether any of them wear it through choice or oppression is another matter).

The Life of Brian should be shown in every school in England over and over. Never has religion been captured so well.

What a horrendous event this has all been and I fear it won't be the last. This kind of attack is becoming more common and it's extremely difficult to prevent.

WTF!

 

[foetus]

This kind of attack is becoming more common and it's extremely difficult to prevent.

Don't let anyone suspected of training for terrorism in Syria/Iraq back into our countries. Don't be so lenient on criminals who have terrorist links/history.

The people responsible for the recent Sydney and Paris attacks have been known to police and have had a history of hatred against the west. They should have been dealt with a long time before any of these horrible events occurred.

 

[scotty123]

I am judging you on your posts in this thread, in which you are clearly out of your depth. Care to expand on the civil war post? Who apart from you and a waiter in Rusholme is part of this civil war? I'm all ears.

Ah I see your judging me now, who are you to judge me?